Thursday, June 08, 2006
Latino says: "I want illegal latinos out"
This post came as a comment to the GrassfireBlog. Worth reading.
--Grassfire.org
Well let me start by saying that i am a latino. thats only because i was labeled as such by our government. i was born in the U.S as were my parents and grandparents. therefore i consider myself a true American the same way a person who is anglo, african,or an asian person would.
It seems that all of these illegal alien protests are directed towards latinos. lets not forget about Russian gangs,asian gangs,armenian gangs, ect. i do feel that it should be directed towards all races including latinos. illegal is just that "illegal", and anybody that is illegal should not be rewarded for commiting a crime.
I want illegal latinos out of my country just as much as any true American, maybe even more since other Americans look at me and think oh great "a wet back" . I am sick and tired of illegals ruining the pride and heritage of well established and respectable Americans of Latin decent. It drives me nuts to see cars around Los Angeles with foriegn flags flying, what the heck, if your country is so damn great then please by all means leave.
Activists and even the President have said that America needs illegals because Americans will not do the dirty work. i say bull, what about all of the lazy Americans on wellfare,section 8 housing,food stamps,medical, free school lunches,reduced utility rates? put them lazy people to work and get them off of the system and lets see how much money we can really save! VIVA LA RAZA, MY FOOT. ONE NATION UNDER GOD.
--Grassfire.org
Well let me start by saying that i am a latino. thats only because i was labeled as such by our government. i was born in the U.S as were my parents and grandparents. therefore i consider myself a true American the same way a person who is anglo, african,or an asian person would.
It seems that all of these illegal alien protests are directed towards latinos. lets not forget about Russian gangs,asian gangs,armenian gangs, ect. i do feel that it should be directed towards all races including latinos. illegal is just that "illegal", and anybody that is illegal should not be rewarded for commiting a crime.
I want illegal latinos out of my country just as much as any true American, maybe even more since other Americans look at me and think oh great "a wet back" . I am sick and tired of illegals ruining the pride and heritage of well established and respectable Americans of Latin decent. It drives me nuts to see cars around Los Angeles with foriegn flags flying, what the heck, if your country is so damn great then please by all means leave.
Activists and even the President have said that America needs illegals because Americans will not do the dirty work. i say bull, what about all of the lazy Americans on wellfare,section 8 housing,food stamps,medical, free school lunches,reduced utility rates? put them lazy people to work and get them off of the system and lets see how much money we can really save! VIVA LA RAZA, MY FOOT. ONE NATION UNDER GOD.
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It is an irony that you want the “Latinos” out of the country, because they were immigrants, too. The issue is that Latinos as you call them are immigrating within their territory. North Americans have a long memory loss. It was not very long that this was Mexican Territory, as a matter of fact not even 200 years, while, the native people have live in this region for 5000 years. It is unfortunate that you side with a culture that is not as rich as the “Latino”. They have a culture that expands 5000 years and contributed a lot to the World.
If you feel people look at you and think you are a “wet back”, you are experiencing racism. Yet, you side with them that is interesting.
I have to give you credit for mentioning that not all the migration into the country are “Latinos” which is a true fact. The fact that this organization focuses on the “Latinos” shows that this organization is racist and ignorant about the issue.
Finally, I would recommend that you read and study more the issue, because it seems that you do not know the facts.
If you feel people look at you and think you are a “wet back”, you are experiencing racism. Yet, you side with them that is interesting.
I have to give you credit for mentioning that not all the migration into the country are “Latinos” which is a true fact. The fact that this organization focuses on the “Latinos” shows that this organization is racist and ignorant about the issue.
Finally, I would recommend that you read and study more the issue, because it seems that you do not know the facts.
It is an irony that you want the “Latinos” out of the country, because they were immigrants, too. The issue is that Latinos as you call them are immigrating within their territory. North Americans have a long memory loss. It was not very long that this was Mexican Territory, as a matter of fact not even 200 years, while, the native people have live in this region for 5000 years. It is unfortunate that you side with a culture that is not as rich as the “Latino”. They have a culture that expands 5000 years and contributed a lot to the World.
If you feel people look at you and think you are a “wet back”, you are experiencing racism. Yet, you side with them that is interesting.
I have to give you credit for mentioning that not all the migration into the country are “Latinos” which is a true fact. The fact that this organization focuses on the “Latinos” shows that this organization is racist and ignorant about the issue.
Finally, I would recommend that you read and study more the issue, because it seems that you do not know the facts.
If you feel people look at you and think you are a “wet back”, you are experiencing racism. Yet, you side with them that is interesting.
I have to give you credit for mentioning that not all the migration into the country are “Latinos” which is a true fact. The fact that this organization focuses on the “Latinos” shows that this organization is racist and ignorant about the issue.
Finally, I would recommend that you read and study more the issue, because it seems that you do not know the facts.
It's ignorance how you want Latino Immigrants out when your parents were once immigrants. Also if all illegal immigrants would be deported then would you work for 6.75 and hour under the hot sun picking stawberries do you think americans would like to the horrible jobs that illegal immigrants do for low wages. Who do you think will do those jobs for Americans. Think about what you are saying.
Well, Leticia, who cares who owned this country 200 or so years ago? Do you know what "irrelevant" means? This is now the United States of America.
I do agree with you about more people than just those of Hispanice origin being here illegally. Each and every one of them should be made to go home.
Also, it is ridiculous to call someone a "wetback" or any other derogatory term. Unfortunately, there will always be individuals who use the illegal immigration issue to further their own racist agendas.
One of the reasons the focus has been on Hispanic illegal immigration is because it is so easy for people from Mexico to come here illegally. People from other nations have a lot more hurdles when trying to get here illegally. Therefore, the vast majority of illegal people here are Hispanic. That's just statistics. Illegal is illegal. It doesn't matter what race, creed, or color. To equate racism with wanting to stem the influx of illegal immigrants is ignorant. Why don't you do your own research on the cost of illegal immigration to the American taxpayers every year? The average household in L.A. has about $2000 in extra taxes each year just to support the illegal immigration troubles. I don't know about you, but $2000 is a lot to me.
I do agree with you about more people than just those of Hispanice origin being here illegally. Each and every one of them should be made to go home.
Also, it is ridiculous to call someone a "wetback" or any other derogatory term. Unfortunately, there will always be individuals who use the illegal immigration issue to further their own racist agendas.
One of the reasons the focus has been on Hispanic illegal immigration is because it is so easy for people from Mexico to come here illegally. People from other nations have a lot more hurdles when trying to get here illegally. Therefore, the vast majority of illegal people here are Hispanic. That's just statistics. Illegal is illegal. It doesn't matter what race, creed, or color. To equate racism with wanting to stem the influx of illegal immigrants is ignorant. Why don't you do your own research on the cost of illegal immigration to the American taxpayers every year? The average household in L.A. has about $2000 in extra taxes each year just to support the illegal immigration troubles. I don't know about you, but $2000 is a lot to me.
Amy H,
The fact that you think it is irrelevant who had the rights to the land 200 years ago is very convenient for you, isn't it?
I suppose you wouldn't agree with someone who thinks that whomever currently has rights to the land is irrelevant as well.
Amy, are you a Native American? If not, STFU, because your ancestors also came here as immigrants. Why did you ancestors get to come but now you want to disallow new immigrants the same advantage your ancestors had?
Let me guess, Amy. You support "legal immigration," right? Of course you do. Legal immigration and naturalization to this country are nearly impossible. If legal immigration were easy, you would oppose that to. Or am I wrong? Do you support making legal immigration to America an easier process?
Face it, Amy, you are a racist just like anybody else who claims they want to stop immigration. You don't like dark people. Your faint cries of kicking out the illegal Russians is a joke.
And I assume you are a Christian too. Pathetic. Jesus would be ashamed to have you as a follower.
The fact that you think it is irrelevant who had the rights to the land 200 years ago is very convenient for you, isn't it?
I suppose you wouldn't agree with someone who thinks that whomever currently has rights to the land is irrelevant as well.
Amy, are you a Native American? If not, STFU, because your ancestors also came here as immigrants. Why did you ancestors get to come but now you want to disallow new immigrants the same advantage your ancestors had?
Let me guess, Amy. You support "legal immigration," right? Of course you do. Legal immigration and naturalization to this country are nearly impossible. If legal immigration were easy, you would oppose that to. Or am I wrong? Do you support making legal immigration to America an easier process?
Face it, Amy, you are a racist just like anybody else who claims they want to stop immigration. You don't like dark people. Your faint cries of kicking out the illegal Russians is a joke.
And I assume you are a Christian too. Pathetic. Jesus would be ashamed to have you as a follower.
I think one of the problems for people accepting latino immigrants-legal or illegal is that they don't want to assimilate like all of the other immigrants that have come to this country. Too many want this country to change for them i.e., spanish is now on everything because the latinos evidently can't or won't speak English like everyone else. I also think this is one of the main problems for African-Americans too. They insist on having their own dialect because they don't want to assimilate. Then they wonder why they experience prejudice. Even Tavis Smiley on NPR has said he would never stop talking "black" because he would be a traitor or something. Amazing, if my immigrant grandparents had refused to assimilate as quick as they did, I doubt they or their children would have made it here either.
Leticia, like Mexico, wars were fought and borders decided by these wars. Mexico lost, the border was drawn. The fact that you claim 5000 years of Latino history means absolutely nothing. Groups like La Raza and LULAC continue to feed propaganda to undermine the AMERICAN way of life. Countries like Lebanon allowed people to stream into their country and call themselves Hezbollah, then they try to destroy it from inside. If you think that AMERICANS, and I mean Hispanic, Black, White or whatever nationality are going to allow this ILLEGAL Invasion of of our country, think again! Bottom line is you need to first be an AMERICAN and become part of the solution not part of the problem or you may just have to learn to speak a middle eastern language. When will the Mexican Americans wake up and realize that this is about ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION not Latinos!
Yes, the vast majority are Hispanics BUT they are NOT the ONLY ONES !! If you are targeting Illegal immigration, get EVERYBODY not just 'the vast majority' !!
And about the taxes costing $2,000 extra dollars, that is total crap because do you know how much the UNITED STATES is LOSING as a result of BIG COMPANIES giving AMERICAN jobs overseas??? Its in the MILLIONS AND BILLIONS !!! If $2,000 is a lot to you, then compare it to the BILLIONS of dollars the US is losing EVERYDAY !!! Why dont you tell the HUGE Corporations to pay off the Tremendous debt that we are accumulating as a result of them trying to make MORE MONEY by giving away jobs for this country !! The financial gap would be a lot smaller if people werent so greedy !!!
So, first control what YOUR American companies are doing with YOUR jobs, THEN talk about illegals, because illegals are actually keeping this country running, not the top CEO's !!
I also agree with 'support of immigration' person: they are RIGHT !! Most Americans would not work in the hot sun for more than 10 hrs, earning a wage that will barely get them through !!! They just want the latest fashion and the biggest TV's and best gadgets- while their fellow neighbor next door is barely making it !! This country would be a WHOLE LOT better if people and neighbors looked out for each other- but NOO, its always about ME, ME, ME !!!
Please, use common sense before attacking people who go through more difficult times than you !!
And about the taxes costing $2,000 extra dollars, that is total crap because do you know how much the UNITED STATES is LOSING as a result of BIG COMPANIES giving AMERICAN jobs overseas??? Its in the MILLIONS AND BILLIONS !!! If $2,000 is a lot to you, then compare it to the BILLIONS of dollars the US is losing EVERYDAY !!! Why dont you tell the HUGE Corporations to pay off the Tremendous debt that we are accumulating as a result of them trying to make MORE MONEY by giving away jobs for this country !! The financial gap would be a lot smaller if people werent so greedy !!!
So, first control what YOUR American companies are doing with YOUR jobs, THEN talk about illegals, because illegals are actually keeping this country running, not the top CEO's !!
I also agree with 'support of immigration' person: they are RIGHT !! Most Americans would not work in the hot sun for more than 10 hrs, earning a wage that will barely get them through !!! They just want the latest fashion and the biggest TV's and best gadgets- while their fellow neighbor next door is barely making it !! This country would be a WHOLE LOT better if people and neighbors looked out for each other- but NOO, its always about ME, ME, ME !!!
Please, use common sense before attacking people who go through more difficult times than you !!
Leticia: There is a HUGE difference in an ILLEGAL ALINEN and ONE that is BORN here. The ILLEGAL aliens are like V. Fox's ARMY coming over here and they BOLDLY say they are here to take back the States we won in the Mexican/American War. They are more LOYAL to Mexico than they ever would be to America. They are AW-BREAKERS in the first place by BREAKING our laws and coming over here ILLEGALLY! if you can't see that, you need to get some LEARNING from SOME source.
Leticia: There is a WORLD of difference in being an ILLEGAL ALIEN and being born here as a Latino. When a war is WON, no body gives back the territory and America is NOT going to do that so the Spanish may as well forget it and if they can't assimilate and LOVE America more than they do MEXICO, let them say over there permanently! The people that marched over here were very militant and BOLDLY said they were here to take back the States we won in the Mexican/American war. They broke the law in the first place by coming here ILLEGALLY taking American jobs. It is a bunch of BULL that Americans won't take those jobs. This is AMERICA NOW and NOT Mexico and when anyone migrates here, they should LEARN ENGLISH and give up that other country as their HOMELAND!
Hello Guys,
My name is Ben. Just wanted to leave you guys with a my perspective on things. Do you all really think that a eight foot wall is going to stop someone from coming into this country?? Building a fence on the border will only be a quick fix that is ultimately going to cost alot of money to the taxpayers, and the influx of "illegal" immigrants will still be the same. The reason people are coming into this country is because of the economic status in their own countries. Thats not our problem right?? Wrong. It is our problem. Foreign Policy,..since the MOnroe Doctrine... We have chosen to be the "protectors" of Latin America, but it is through the World Bank, the maquiladors and other policies that some coutries have been devastated. Although the damage is indirect, its still there.
One more thing, America is the salad bowl. Everyone...(immigrants) that has stepped on American soil has brought its culture along with them. They choose not to let it go. You have the carrots, the cucumbers, the tomaotes, the croutons, and they are all mixed in, but you could still tell them apart. This is what makes American great. That is why US has doesnt' have such huge soccer fans. Everyone roots for their mother lands team. Well guys. have a good day.
My name is Ben. Just wanted to leave you guys with a my perspective on things. Do you all really think that a eight foot wall is going to stop someone from coming into this country?? Building a fence on the border will only be a quick fix that is ultimately going to cost alot of money to the taxpayers, and the influx of "illegal" immigrants will still be the same. The reason people are coming into this country is because of the economic status in their own countries. Thats not our problem right?? Wrong. It is our problem. Foreign Policy,..since the MOnroe Doctrine... We have chosen to be the "protectors" of Latin America, but it is through the World Bank, the maquiladors and other policies that some coutries have been devastated. Although the damage is indirect, its still there.
One more thing, America is the salad bowl. Everyone...(immigrants) that has stepped on American soil has brought its culture along with them. They choose not to let it go. You have the carrots, the cucumbers, the tomaotes, the croutons, and they are all mixed in, but you could still tell them apart. This is what makes American great. That is why US has doesnt' have such huge soccer fans. Everyone roots for their mother lands team. Well guys. have a good day.
The reason that spanish is everywhere is because it is the most widely used language on the planet. More people speak spanish than any other language. Just like the other person wrote a few posts back, if you are not native american indian then you have no right to talk about immigration. Your ancestors were immigrants too. For God's sake, this country was founded on immigration.
To the "quick language assimilator". Check it out, not everybody assimilates the same as your wonderful grandparents, have you noticed that everybody is different??? Working two jobs while trying to learn a second language does not come easy for everyone. consider this.
let me see if i get this right....you want these people to leave the country, but your people want to get in their countries and set powerfull companies which will destroy small starting bussiness, which will affect primarily lower classes. Conclusion....lower job availability and hunger sons will force you look for other possibilities in other country. You cannot make a stereotype of an immigrant for the stupidities of a few, but is really evident that you haven seen the other reality of these people. I dont blame you for that comment if thats what you think, and hopefully you will not have to go to another country without legal status.............but if you do, make sure it is not southamerica, because you will never, never, never will be welcome for what you just said. ................and if you are a little bit educated, make sure to make some deep research before write a comment
Everyone is missing the real reason for why Americans are against illegal amnesty. It is not racial hatred. That's just a scam meant to create more hatred so that the real reason doesn't come to light.
It boils down to less American jobs, salaries that haven't increased since the Nixon years, decreased work benefits, rising prices (gas, education, healthcare, food and housing). The American middle class is hard-pressed these days to take care of their families. In fact the American middle-class is decreasing in number. More families are now poor.
Actually American workers and Hispanic workers (illegal and legal) have a common enemy. Both Americans and Hispanics are being exploited by Big Business.
Illegals come to the US and are forced to take up jobs that don't pay a fair wage or have any benefits. They can't speak up and demand justice because they are here illegally.
Americans are losing their jobs to illegals who uncut them wage-wise. Meat packers earned $19.00 an hour in the 1980s. Now meat packers get $9.00 an hour. Americans are forced to look for other jobs in order to maintain their standard of living.
Do Americans have a right to maintain their standard of living. Yes they do. Why? Because all of their ancestors came here with nothing and worked at horrible jobs in order to see that the next generation would be better off.
My father was a day laborer; my mother was a maid. They were low-skilled workers who worked long and hard so that our family could get an education and better jobs. They paid their dues...just like the ancestors of all Americans.
I've heard many people state..."would Americans work in 100 degree temperatures for minimum wage?" Well, I'm old. I remember the time when Americans (all racial & ethnic groups) did this. Kids in my neighborhood would earn money cutting grass and shoveling snow. Now, they have been replaced by illegals. Kids and adults used to do construction work during our HOT summer months...willingly because years ago because they were "paid construction wages (lot higher than minimum wage at that time). High School students worked in the grocery stores--now replaced by illegals who work without benefits.
I don't know if anyone else sees the pattern here. But, Business is replacing Americans (either with illegals or by outsourcing jobs to India and China) and putting downward pressure on their salaries & benefits.
BUT BUSINESS IS DUMPING THE COSTS FOR ALL THE ILLEGALS on to the American worker. Although some illegals pay taxes, the costs for all their social services far outweighs anything they put into the system. Current estimates indicate that each US citizen pays $11,000 for each illegal in this country. And, as I wrote...American families are being squeezed by Business and rising costs.
Now, the so-called legislators in Washington are hyping comprehensive immigration bills. Politicians in Washington don't care one bit about Hispanics or Americans. These bills have been created in order to bring in millions of more low-skilled workers from Latin America.
Why? Is there a labor shortage in the US. Answer: NO. What will happen if the Senate, the Democrats have their way. Hispanic Americans will suffer the most. We will be forced to compete in the job market with waves of new immigrants. The new immigrants will be exploited at first. When they realize this fact, they will demand a fair wage & benefits. But, the next wave of newbies will come in and the oldies will be fired--or forced to accept lower wages.
If Business has its way--the US will ultimately become a third world nation with two classes...the rich and the poor.
Yes, we need to revise immigration. We are a nation of immigrants. But, immigration must depend upon actual need. Importing more people than there are jobs for them--only makes the rich richer.
So, beware of the hypocrites in Washington. They get their campaign monies from Business. Their first and only loyalty is to Business. They are not helping Hispanics...they are helping themselves.
It boils down to less American jobs, salaries that haven't increased since the Nixon years, decreased work benefits, rising prices (gas, education, healthcare, food and housing). The American middle class is hard-pressed these days to take care of their families. In fact the American middle-class is decreasing in number. More families are now poor.
Actually American workers and Hispanic workers (illegal and legal) have a common enemy. Both Americans and Hispanics are being exploited by Big Business.
Illegals come to the US and are forced to take up jobs that don't pay a fair wage or have any benefits. They can't speak up and demand justice because they are here illegally.
Americans are losing their jobs to illegals who uncut them wage-wise. Meat packers earned $19.00 an hour in the 1980s. Now meat packers get $9.00 an hour. Americans are forced to look for other jobs in order to maintain their standard of living.
Do Americans have a right to maintain their standard of living. Yes they do. Why? Because all of their ancestors came here with nothing and worked at horrible jobs in order to see that the next generation would be better off.
My father was a day laborer; my mother was a maid. They were low-skilled workers who worked long and hard so that our family could get an education and better jobs. They paid their dues...just like the ancestors of all Americans.
I've heard many people state..."would Americans work in 100 degree temperatures for minimum wage?" Well, I'm old. I remember the time when Americans (all racial & ethnic groups) did this. Kids in my neighborhood would earn money cutting grass and shoveling snow. Now, they have been replaced by illegals. Kids and adults used to do construction work during our HOT summer months...willingly because years ago because they were "paid construction wages (lot higher than minimum wage at that time). High School students worked in the grocery stores--now replaced by illegals who work without benefits.
I don't know if anyone else sees the pattern here. But, Business is replacing Americans (either with illegals or by outsourcing jobs to India and China) and putting downward pressure on their salaries & benefits.
BUT BUSINESS IS DUMPING THE COSTS FOR ALL THE ILLEGALS on to the American worker. Although some illegals pay taxes, the costs for all their social services far outweighs anything they put into the system. Current estimates indicate that each US citizen pays $11,000 for each illegal in this country. And, as I wrote...American families are being squeezed by Business and rising costs.
Now, the so-called legislators in Washington are hyping comprehensive immigration bills. Politicians in Washington don't care one bit about Hispanics or Americans. These bills have been created in order to bring in millions of more low-skilled workers from Latin America.
Why? Is there a labor shortage in the US. Answer: NO. What will happen if the Senate, the Democrats have their way. Hispanic Americans will suffer the most. We will be forced to compete in the job market with waves of new immigrants. The new immigrants will be exploited at first. When they realize this fact, they will demand a fair wage & benefits. But, the next wave of newbies will come in and the oldies will be fired--or forced to accept lower wages.
If Business has its way--the US will ultimately become a third world nation with two classes...the rich and the poor.
Yes, we need to revise immigration. We are a nation of immigrants. But, immigration must depend upon actual need. Importing more people than there are jobs for them--only makes the rich richer.
So, beware of the hypocrites in Washington. They get their campaign monies from Business. Their first and only loyalty is to Business. They are not helping Hispanics...they are helping themselves.
American people are realizing that we have been played the fool,all the other countrys around the world are laughing at us,liberal politics have made us week!
I believe America is ready to have a outstanding come back.
#1-Deport all illigal aliens.
#2-Shut down and protect USA.
#3-Make illigal aliens pay back all money for illigal children,any compensation they have recieved,and fine them for every thing they have stolen from USA.
#4-Heavy fines and penalties for any business that have used and abused illigal aliens.
#5-Any new imagration should be the very best the world has to offer.
All the other countries would never tolerrate this full out invasion,and total disrepect for the United States Of America.
To all you law breaking illigal parasites.Go home and take back your own country,your done!!!
I believe America is ready to have a outstanding come back.
#1-Deport all illigal aliens.
#2-Shut down and protect USA.
#3-Make illigal aliens pay back all money for illigal children,any compensation they have recieved,and fine them for every thing they have stolen from USA.
#4-Heavy fines and penalties for any business that have used and abused illigal aliens.
#5-Any new imagration should be the very best the world has to offer.
All the other countries would never tolerrate this full out invasion,and total disrepect for the United States Of America.
To all you law breaking illigal parasites.Go home and take back your own country,your done!!!
Illegal parasites?!? Oh yeah, THAT will make them go home alright!!! I'm really tired of y'all offending everybody else just because they are "INVADING" your country!! ("Let's call them dirty, mean names so they will leave.....ummm...I don't think that's gonna WORK AT ALL!! - well, I don't think illegals would leave with anything you tell them!! I mean COME ON, ADULTS let's be more more MATURE than that!!)
First of all, I don't y'all will be able to send them ALL home- SO FORGET ABOUT DOING THAT!!!
Second: I don't think that you will be able to make ALL illegals pay back anything- SO FORGET ABOUT DOING THAT!!!
Third: I don't think y'all will be able to build 'however many HUNDREDS' (maybe about 400 or MORE!!) of miles of fence- because the only people working in the HOT sun are illegals- and I don't think that THEY will build a fence to keep THEMSELEVS out!! haha Once again- SO FORGET ABOUT DOING THAT!!!
And to the person talking about 'I remember back in the day when little kids used to work in the sun'...not to be disrespectful but that was, like you said,"back then", not "NOW"!! And about adults working in the HOT sun during the summer months for construction because the wages were higher.....
1) The wages were higher so that's why they worked back then...construction wages are kinda low now (and they are sort of lazy during this century);
2)high school students are in more fast-food restaurants, so maybe that's why you don't see them that much in grocery stores;
3)Kids don't work that much in the fields because there are not much fields to work in and they have to go to school;
4)Those students who you say are being "replaced" by illegals are too busy with cocaine, Glocks, and skipping school!
So as you can see, there IS a labor shortage because eligible workers are not working...for various reasons....and if you want to get your "HOT" jobs back, tell the big corporations first!!
First of all, I don't y'all will be able to send them ALL home- SO FORGET ABOUT DOING THAT!!!
Second: I don't think that you will be able to make ALL illegals pay back anything- SO FORGET ABOUT DOING THAT!!!
Third: I don't think y'all will be able to build 'however many HUNDREDS' (maybe about 400 or MORE!!) of miles of fence- because the only people working in the HOT sun are illegals- and I don't think that THEY will build a fence to keep THEMSELEVS out!! haha Once again- SO FORGET ABOUT DOING THAT!!!
And to the person talking about 'I remember back in the day when little kids used to work in the sun'...not to be disrespectful but that was, like you said,"back then", not "NOW"!! And about adults working in the HOT sun during the summer months for construction because the wages were higher.....
1) The wages were higher so that's why they worked back then...construction wages are kinda low now (and they are sort of lazy during this century);
2)high school students are in more fast-food restaurants, so maybe that's why you don't see them that much in grocery stores;
3)Kids don't work that much in the fields because there are not much fields to work in and they have to go to school;
4)Those students who you say are being "replaced" by illegals are too busy with cocaine, Glocks, and skipping school!
So as you can see, there IS a labor shortage because eligible workers are not working...for various reasons....and if you want to get your "HOT" jobs back, tell the big corporations first!!
It truly saddens me to see just how many people don't understand how our country is in peril of non-existence! To think of how many men and women have died to give us our amazing freedoms and our way of life, and to have our own citizens now wanting us to abandon those freedoms!
I believe The original post was correct. His parents were not illegals, so read the posts before you bad mouth him. He understands the totality of what will happen if we do not gain control of our borders. Immigration is fine when it is LEGAL!
What you folks that are bad mouthing him don't understand is, the illegals are not coming here to become Americans and assimulate to our culture. All of us still have our families cultures we may practice, but we are not trying to make everyone else live by our culture. We have accepted the American values and still have our heritages! That's the difference you seem to be missing!
My family LEGALLY immigrated to the US from Croatia. My great-grandparents were very proud to become citizens in 1944. They spoke very little english but did all they could to learn while working sweat jobs. They were very poor by American standards and yet they (in their minds) were wealthy because of their living conditions in Croatia. They busted their butts to come to America LEGALLY and became PROUD US CITIZENS. They did not demand that they be spoken to in their natural language, they did not demand that their heritage be recognized by the rest of America! They were ecstatic to be able to give their children a better life. That is the difference!
Have you ever thought about the people that are doing everything LEGALLY to enter this country for a better life? Is it fair to them that the LAW BREAKERS
I believe The original post was correct. His parents were not illegals, so read the posts before you bad mouth him. He understands the totality of what will happen if we do not gain control of our borders. Immigration is fine when it is LEGAL!
What you folks that are bad mouthing him don't understand is, the illegals are not coming here to become Americans and assimulate to our culture. All of us still have our families cultures we may practice, but we are not trying to make everyone else live by our culture. We have accepted the American values and still have our heritages! That's the difference you seem to be missing!
My family LEGALLY immigrated to the US from Croatia. My great-grandparents were very proud to become citizens in 1944. They spoke very little english but did all they could to learn while working sweat jobs. They were very poor by American standards and yet they (in their minds) were wealthy because of their living conditions in Croatia. They busted their butts to come to America LEGALLY and became PROUD US CITIZENS. They did not demand that they be spoken to in their natural language, they did not demand that their heritage be recognized by the rest of America! They were ecstatic to be able to give their children a better life. That is the difference!
Have you ever thought about the people that are doing everything LEGALLY to enter this country for a better life? Is it fair to them that the LAW BREAKERS
It greatly saddens me to see so many Americans just not getting how much danger we are in of losing America as we know it! It saddens me that in a country with as much freedom and way of life as ours that we have so many people that are un-patriotic!
To think of all the men and women that have fought for our rights and freedoms and have died for them, that so many are willing to make it all in vain and this country fail! How so many cannot see the big picture puzzles me!!!!
The original post has it right! All ILLEGALS, no matter what origin should be immediately extracted from this country - period. They broke the law to get here and giving them "cart blanche" in front of all that are trying to come her LEGALLY is bs.
"Support of immigration said..." obviously you missed the point that his parents and grandparents were born here! All of our families have LEGAL IMMIGRANTS somewhere in our past. My great-grandparents came here in 1942 LEGALLY and became Citizens of the US in 1944 from Croatia! My great-grandfather was so proud to be a citizen he joined the military to protect this country!!!! They spoke very little english but learned. They worked in sweat-shop style jobs so don't go spouting how hard the ILLEGALS have it. If they came here LEGALLY they wouldn't have that problem now would they?
The difference is, when my great-grandparents came here they assimilated to the US customs. We still have our heritage customs, but we, unlike the ILLEGALS, did not try to make America change to suit our customs!
Amy is right as to why Hispanics are in focus right now and the anonymous that attacked her and then wanted to know if she was Christian - I believe you are the racist! I happen to believe in stopping ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION and if you ask anybody that knows me I don't give a rats you know what what color your skin is or your national origin. I love people, but I also believe in the Law! If my great-grandparents could go through all the hurdles they did in 1942 then it works for those that want a better life. Yes it takes time, why do you believe everyone has to have instant gratification?
I also agree with the original post as the putting all those on welfare and section 8 to work in these so called low wage jobs! I'm sick of busting my hiney, hurting, exhausted, to support people that want a free ride in life!
To think of all the men and women that have fought for our rights and freedoms and have died for them, that so many are willing to make it all in vain and this country fail! How so many cannot see the big picture puzzles me!!!!
The original post has it right! All ILLEGALS, no matter what origin should be immediately extracted from this country - period. They broke the law to get here and giving them "cart blanche" in front of all that are trying to come her LEGALLY is bs.
"Support of immigration said..." obviously you missed the point that his parents and grandparents were born here! All of our families have LEGAL IMMIGRANTS somewhere in our past. My great-grandparents came here in 1942 LEGALLY and became Citizens of the US in 1944 from Croatia! My great-grandfather was so proud to be a citizen he joined the military to protect this country!!!! They spoke very little english but learned. They worked in sweat-shop style jobs so don't go spouting how hard the ILLEGALS have it. If they came here LEGALLY they wouldn't have that problem now would they?
The difference is, when my great-grandparents came here they assimilated to the US customs. We still have our heritage customs, but we, unlike the ILLEGALS, did not try to make America change to suit our customs!
Amy is right as to why Hispanics are in focus right now and the anonymous that attacked her and then wanted to know if she was Christian - I believe you are the racist! I happen to believe in stopping ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION and if you ask anybody that knows me I don't give a rats you know what what color your skin is or your national origin. I love people, but I also believe in the Law! If my great-grandparents could go through all the hurdles they did in 1942 then it works for those that want a better life. Yes it takes time, why do you believe everyone has to have instant gratification?
I also agree with the original post as the putting all those on welfare and section 8 to work in these so called low wage jobs! I'm sick of busting my hiney, hurting, exhausted, to support people that want a free ride in life!
i want a person name susan from trinidad tobago out from usa because she is illegal here she doesn't have no paper . she is trying to my husband get divorce from me to she has her paper as a bussines she made a lot troble between me and my husband . she can here with bussines visa and she state here like for more then five year i am a citizend person and my husband and me are married but she want to separate us.
susan is from trinidad tobago and she reside in perth amboy , iselin new jersey . she dosen't has resident she has bussines paper. but she here more than five years. I am a married person and i love my husband and she trying to make my husband rrom me and get married to her for paper only she trying to do illegal things I want her back to trinidad. i don't want no problem i am a citizen and my husband do love to but she is in between us making troble
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my ancestors were immigrants. They were LEGAL immigrants who came to this country and they loved and appreciated it more than most native born americans. Lets be honest, how long are you going to support ILLEGAL immigration when that terrorist strolls over our borders with a dirty bomb or worse, a nuke, and kills you and your children. This has NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE. It has everything to do with protecting our country and our children from people who want to kill us. How anyone can actually defend illegal immigration after 9/11 is just beyond me
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Good for you. It is NOT racist to want illegals out of our country. I am of Arab descent and I want Arab illegals out as well. Illegal means illegal. I don't care who it is!
Go home all illegal Mexican,You have done so much damage to my country.You are full of germs,You are breaking our law.You work for little,but steal alot.and lie out of your asses and use your own kids to get what you want.That is abusive to do this to your own kids, And All you Mexician female,Close your legs and stop popping out those babies,That you can't even afford?!?! Go home! all you are doing is taking our money so you can live like a king and queen in MEXICO. You love it there so what in the hell are you doing here, GET OUT NOW
I commend you "Latino" for your bravery and patriotism. I am equally sorry for those latinos who continue to think that this is a race issue. It shows their lack of knowledge. The reason people are offended more by mexicans than any other illegal group is strictly demographics. It wouldn't matter if it were another anglo country below us, we would still feel the same. Illegal is Illegal. I have worked in the fields. I have picked plums, harvested tomatoes and detassled corn. This is how we used to make money for school clothes. As a matter of fact, we lost these jobs to illegals in my junior year. What I don't understand is all the protesting for rights that you don't qualify for. Why aren't you prostesting and fighting for your rights in your homeland. Aztlan does not exist. You were sold out then and you are being sold out now. We (Americans) are not screwing you over. Your country is doing that. Are you too ignorant to see that?
Hey Leticia, maybe you should read alittle more on the subject, that after the "war" the Union happen to win, the US PAID mexico for the land anyway...I too come for immagrants both from "SPAIN and MEXICO", but they did it LEGALLY! For anyone wanting to come to this country, that wants to break the laws to do it, is wrong..I am also sick and tired of seeing other country flags in protests, if they were such great countrys, then why are they LEAVING, THEM??? The other thing I do not understand is if they are so GREAT why won;t the people stand up and fight, like this country did for what they want. This country is so GREAT and totaly different than ALL others because WE do accecpt other nationalities if they do things LEGALLY...But the Pres. and those polititians that say illegals are need are TOTALY wrong. They are not needed, I agree with the other guy on this, I told my 29yr if working in the fields was good enough for my great-granparents, grandparents, parents and me, what makes him SO GOOD not to do the same, all these LAZY ASS Welfare and others need to know that to get a check they need to work for it...Buy the way, we are also the onlky country that will let others purchase our lands and do what illegals do, if AMERICANS even tried it )even in Mexico guess were we would be!! SO keep you illegal immagrants in there own country, at least till they want to do things THE AMERICAN WAY! by the way for all those that think just because a person is light skinned blue-eye means they are "WEDO OR WEDA", I AM both of these, but am a CHICANA, but knows what it is like to be called the above...So Leticia, read up on your HISTORY before you tell someone else...
Guess what folks, stop and think, in the first place, yes we all have ancestors that came here as immagrants, BUT then we didn't have the LAWS that we have now...SO what happened then was then, what is now is now, for one times have changed, there was not threat to this nation at the time, People need to see why this is SUCH a big issue, remember 9/11,,,apparently not...when people out there want to let illegals break the laws, (try breaking those same laws in their countrys)...Nobdoy says we do not want versity in the US we are saying do it LEGALLY, respect this NATION as you would want us to RESPECT YOURS!!!
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