Wednesday, November 08, 2006
President Delivers Knee To Groin -- Amnesty Is Coming!
by Steve Elliott, President
President Bush almost made a mistake at his first post-election news conference….He almost forgot to announce that amnesty is on his “list of things that we need to get done.”
Whew! Good thing that reporter reminded him with that last-second question before the closing bell of the press conference! That will really cheer up the grassroots base already demoralized by the abject failure of both the President and the Republican Congress. Actually, it was like a knee to the groin for citizens who have carried the heavy load this year in standing on principle for the security of our nation while the President tried to sell us down the Rio Grande.
Here’s what the President said:
“I think we have a good chance [at passing the amnesty
bill]. Thank you. It's an important issue and I hope we
can get something done on it. I meant to put that in my
list of things that we need to get done.”
Real Political Fallout Over Immigration
Even though all the post-election analysis is focusing on what will happen with the war in Iraq, the President’s comments should be a warning to every concerned American that the most likely place to look for political fallout is the issue of immigration.
A Republican House -- for all its perceived and real ethical and agenda failures -- was without question the last holdout in Washington, D.C., blocking the Senate/President amnesty plan. With Speaker Pelosi and Judiciary Chair Conyers, an amnesty bill in early 2007 seems likely. It will be a difficult fight to keep House Democrats from giving the Senate and the President what they want -- amnesty for 12-20 million illegal aliens.
Border Security Republicans Go Down
The change in House control is compounded by the number of strong border security Congressmen who were defeated at the polls. Let’s be clear -- the Republicans were NOT defeated because of the strong stance some took on border security. The exit polling data shows clearly that it was the Democrats’ ability ot nationalize the election as a referendum of President Bush and the war in Iraq, combined with numerous missteps by Republican Congressional leaders, that caused the changeover. In fact, the exit polling showed that six in 10 Americans are concerned about the problem of illegal immigration.
That said, defeated Republican members of the House averaged 88% on Grassfire’s 2006 Immigration Scorecard -- above the overall average Republican score of 84%. Only one defeated Republican House member scored below 70% and 12 scored 90% or above.
On the Senate side, three of the most closely watched races saw strong border security Republicans get defeated (assuming the last results hold): Allen (VA-100%), Burns (MT-100%), Talent (MO-91%).
Please understand -- exit poll results do not show that border security was the decisive issue in the defeat of these Republican members of Congress. My point is that our hand in the House and Senate just got significantly weaker. (You can access Grassfire’s online Scorecard here:
http://www.grassfire.org/42/Scorecard.asp
What’s Next In The Fight To Secure Our Borders
The record of 2006 shows that grassroots Americans stood up to the onslaught of the open borders/amnesty forces. We stared down the President, the Senate, the media and millions of illegal aliens protesting in our streets. I was told by members of House and their staffers that were it not for the efforts of grassroots citizens, House Republicans would not have had the political fortitude to stand up to the amnesty push.
But we just lost our main ally. And with the President bending over backwards to find “common ground” with the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Charles Rangel -- and indicating that immigration was on his “list” -- the fight to secure our borders and stop amnesty just got exponentially more difficult.
In the coming months, citizens like you and me will have to sacrifice even more and work even harder. This will require movement leaders to work together more closely behind the united, common goal of stopping the invasion.
This is no time to shrink back from this battle for the very future of our nation. In fact, Grassfire is already gearing up for the coming fight. I trust you will join with us and millions of citizens who are taking a stand to secure our nation.
President Bush almost made a mistake at his first post-election news conference….He almost forgot to announce that amnesty is on his “list of things that we need to get done.”
Whew! Good thing that reporter reminded him with that last-second question before the closing bell of the press conference! That will really cheer up the grassroots base already demoralized by the abject failure of both the President and the Republican Congress. Actually, it was like a knee to the groin for citizens who have carried the heavy load this year in standing on principle for the security of our nation while the President tried to sell us down the Rio Grande.
Here’s what the President said:
“I think we have a good chance [at passing the amnesty
bill]. Thank you. It's an important issue and I hope we
can get something done on it. I meant to put that in my
list of things that we need to get done.”
Real Political Fallout Over Immigration
Even though all the post-election analysis is focusing on what will happen with the war in Iraq, the President’s comments should be a warning to every concerned American that the most likely place to look for political fallout is the issue of immigration.
A Republican House -- for all its perceived and real ethical and agenda failures -- was without question the last holdout in Washington, D.C., blocking the Senate/President amnesty plan. With Speaker Pelosi and Judiciary Chair Conyers, an amnesty bill in early 2007 seems likely. It will be a difficult fight to keep House Democrats from giving the Senate and the President what they want -- amnesty for 12-20 million illegal aliens.
Border Security Republicans Go Down
The change in House control is compounded by the number of strong border security Congressmen who were defeated at the polls. Let’s be clear -- the Republicans were NOT defeated because of the strong stance some took on border security. The exit polling data shows clearly that it was the Democrats’ ability ot nationalize the election as a referendum of President Bush and the war in Iraq, combined with numerous missteps by Republican Congressional leaders, that caused the changeover. In fact, the exit polling showed that six in 10 Americans are concerned about the problem of illegal immigration.
That said, defeated Republican members of the House averaged 88% on Grassfire’s 2006 Immigration Scorecard -- above the overall average Republican score of 84%. Only one defeated Republican House member scored below 70% and 12 scored 90% or above.
On the Senate side, three of the most closely watched races saw strong border security Republicans get defeated (assuming the last results hold): Allen (VA-100%), Burns (MT-100%), Talent (MO-91%).
Please understand -- exit poll results do not show that border security was the decisive issue in the defeat of these Republican members of Congress. My point is that our hand in the House and Senate just got significantly weaker. (You can access Grassfire’s online Scorecard here:
http://www.grassfire.org/42/Scorecard.asp
What’s Next In The Fight To Secure Our Borders
The record of 2006 shows that grassroots Americans stood up to the onslaught of the open borders/amnesty forces. We stared down the President, the Senate, the media and millions of illegal aliens protesting in our streets. I was told by members of House and their staffers that were it not for the efforts of grassroots citizens, House Republicans would not have had the political fortitude to stand up to the amnesty push.
But we just lost our main ally. And with the President bending over backwards to find “common ground” with the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Charles Rangel -- and indicating that immigration was on his “list” -- the fight to secure our borders and stop amnesty just got exponentially more difficult.
In the coming months, citizens like you and me will have to sacrifice even more and work even harder. This will require movement leaders to work together more closely behind the united, common goal of stopping the invasion.
This is no time to shrink back from this battle for the very future of our nation. In fact, Grassfire is already gearing up for the coming fight. I trust you will join with us and millions of citizens who are taking a stand to secure our nation.
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I don't think I have ever felt so let down and depressed after an election as well as terrified about
our border security and the possibility of another attack. If another attack happens within the next two years, and it could, Pres Bush will get full blame, not the Dems and their dirty politics. I am very disappointed that our Republican representatives keep turning the other cheek and tolerate the trash talking media and Left wing radicals. We some how need to take a strong stand, now and going forward and make our representatives understand that they need to start standing up for the things we believe in. Our traditions, our language, out pledge to our flag, our Christian base.
our border security and the possibility of another attack. If another attack happens within the next two years, and it could, Pres Bush will get full blame, not the Dems and their dirty politics. I am very disappointed that our Republican representatives keep turning the other cheek and tolerate the trash talking media and Left wing radicals. We some how need to take a strong stand, now and going forward and make our representatives understand that they need to start standing up for the things we believe in. Our traditions, our language, out pledge to our flag, our Christian base.
Well, Americans--when those of you that turned coat for the Dems start getting upset at the things that they will be pushing, remember how you voted......Americans shot themselves in the foot! It won't matter who is Predident with that lineup in Washington now.....I think the hard work of those of us who see the bigger picture was wasted on deaf ears and we are in for one heck of a liberal ride...fasten your seatbelts! Thank God He is ultimately in control however......what happened to standing firm for what we were founded for and getting the job done!?
We can count on CNN'S Lou Dobbs to keep the imigration issue in the news. We will keep on fighting until we get the border secured and laws past.
I am ashamed of the turn in Americans who know better; to the dark side: no strength, no honor, no understanding of the big picture! All the liberal things that are going to be facing us now: the push to remove God from everything, acceptance of gays which are an abomination to civil society, illegals will just take over now since Dems want to get their votes even though they don't speak Enlish, break the law and will change the way Americans heritage turns out.! But then they don't care cause they are well off enough not to have to deal with them down here where the rest of us live...it goes on and one...the troops who have lost buddies and limbs fighting for you..YOU who betray them with your 'lets run and tuck tail!' No one wants war but if America's freedom is not worth fighting for now just wait until the next phase explodes, then you deserve what you get!!!!! But not the rest of us who believe in America, who we are and what we stand for!!!! There needs to be a huge change in ALL the government...reread the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence! Maybe that would be a good place to begin again to re-build a decent America! It is time to unite and stop the liberal crap, if we don't, it won't be a question of what party, it will be a question of wheather we have a nation to even call our own any more...remember YOU did this!
No President is perfect, since when is anyone? There are always things that are not accepted in each campaign, however, WE ARE AMERICA, united and if we do not overcome the split that is dividing us we will be fighting each other as in the Civil War!! How about that for a wonderful way to solve things? I would rather see us fight the evil and enemy somewhere else than in our own country!! What on earth are people thinking to be so wishy- washy and weak? Where would we be if that were the case in Vietnam and WWII....now it will take the draft and MANY more will die for the foolishness of thinking!!! What denial of facts! It is not an easy war and it is far from over...just wait and see what happens to our country! It is not going to be good! God help us all, we're going to need it!
We can win and make progress on the immigration issue. Keep America informed tell me and others what needs to be done.
What is president Bush thinking about? He claims to be a Christian ,If he reads his Bible it tells him that there will never be peace in Iraq. All those Billions spent, should have been spent in protecting our country from illegals that want our children on drugs,It is other countries that will attack us from within after they get here illegal. Will he have to be impeached? He has a one track mind, and that is it.God help us all.
My feelings are that many value
voters were thinking with their
heads and not with their hearts
and ask God for the wisdom to vote
His will. If we would have all gone
to the polls not out of anger but
to vote the best.
Now we must let those that have
been chosen they will not rest
until they have done all that they can to make wise and moral choices
on the marriage issue, aborton
all of our GOD GIVEN RIGHTS
I shall be in my congresspeoples
faces daily on these
voters were thinking with their
heads and not with their hearts
and ask God for the wisdom to vote
His will. If we would have all gone
to the polls not out of anger but
to vote the best.
Now we must let those that have
been chosen they will not rest
until they have done all that they can to make wise and moral choices
on the marriage issue, aborton
all of our GOD GIVEN RIGHTS
I shall be in my congresspeoples
faces daily on these
I do not understand.
Here is the president we have all stood up for and probably happily voted for about to sign away our national borders and ultimately our national identity.
We have stood four square for legal imigration and just asked that new comers enter in a legal way.
No thinking nation in this day and age does the amnesty insanity.
TWICE???????
Here is the president we have all stood up for and probably happily voted for about to sign away our national borders and ultimately our national identity.
We have stood four square for legal imigration and just asked that new comers enter in a legal way.
No thinking nation in this day and age does the amnesty insanity.
TWICE???????
I am disgusted the first thing that comes out of the mouth of Bush is the Amnesty!! This is very upsetting. He will get it now that he has the Democrats on his side. Bush is really a Democrat is he is not a Conservative at all. He is a very weak man who has no backbone or sense of reality on what this massive Amnesty will cause. Look at the history of Lebanon and you will get the picture on what will happen here. Read a book called 'Because they Hate' and you will understand.
Amnesty is shameful and a perfect way for our country to be destroyed from within. It's interesting how our government welcomes criminals yet tells God to hide!!
I wonder what show in the streets we'd get for an anti-amnesty rally. We Americans are just a bit too comfortable and that's what the Evil one is counting on!
I wonder what show in the streets we'd get for an anti-amnesty rally. We Americans are just a bit too comfortable and that's what the Evil one is counting on!
I think we ought to load them in boxcars & send them back...We have enough problems in this country without adding more...where in the world do these people think the money is coming from to support all these imigrants??...my Social Security?? Enough is enough....Put these law makers on Social Security & see what they have to say then!!!!
I pray for a nation that did not trust in the power of prayer before going to the polls. We had better pray hard now...right now, and continuously every day. Pray for our President, he's in for a constant fight, all the new people now in our Senate and House of Reps. Pray that God continues to keep His hand of blessings on us as a nation under God. He is the only one who can help us. He was ready before each Christian went to the voters booth. He was ready to give us the answer before we pushed the buttons. I went to Him and He guided me all the way. Pray constantly for guidance for our President and the battles he will face daily and they will be many as I mentioned before. God Bless America!!!
I pray that Americans become united against illegal immigration. It is up to us to keep up the faxes, emails, phone calls, and letters to the House, Senate, and President. No guest workers. No amnesty. No surrender.
No guest workers. No amnesty. No surrender.
I work in construction and see the unskilled work all the time,You get what you pay for except for the home buyer.They get a unskilled homebuilder that has NO Trade Schooling what so ever! You should see how some of the houses are being built and covered up by the contractors.
I think we should go around posting signs saying: Built by unskilled Illegal Immigrants!
Let the people know what they are buying!
I work in construction and see the unskilled work all the time,You get what you pay for except for the home buyer.They get a unskilled homebuilder that has NO Trade Schooling what so ever! You should see how some of the houses are being built and covered up by the contractors.
I think we should go around posting signs saying: Built by unskilled Illegal Immigrants!
Let the people know what they are buying!
All I can say is that Satan is very busy at work doing all the damage he can. He must be laughing and gloating over what is happening to America. I hope and pray that our leaders, as well as the liberals, will wake up and turn back to God before it is TOO LATE!!! They are going to have to suffer the consequences of their actions along with the rest of us. May God Help Us!!!
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15082
Column by Joseph Farah in World Net Daily Nov 6 2000. This occurred while Clinton was still President. No one has ever followed up on it. Your vote doesn't count anymore people. Yesterday they marched, today they voted.
Column by Joseph Farah in World Net Daily Nov 6 2000. This occurred while Clinton was still President. No one has ever followed up on it. Your vote doesn't count anymore people. Yesterday they marched, today they voted.
Watching my country die a slow death is sickening. You're spinning your wheels by even giving a damn. This country is on a fast sled to hell and there's no stopping it. Want me to tell you want's coming?:
The US is going to continue to be overrun with aliens. The same thing happened to the Roman Empire and other great civilizations and we know what happened there.
The US is going to continue to lose political clout and influence in the world. The US will become a global laughingstock.
The European Union is the next world superpower and it ain't going to be pretty.
The war in Iraq is going to be for naught. Iran is going to take control of Iraq. Take that to the bank. Thousands of lives and billions of dollars all for nothing. All because Bush had a personal vendetta for Saddam Hussein.
The country is going to continue to morally decay. Gay marriage, pedophilia, late-term abortion. It's a pit of vipers and you ain't seen nothing yet.
There are not going to be anymore leaders of substance. The Roosevelts, Kennedy's, Churchills are long gone.
This country has turned it's back on God and given him the finger. It's day of reckoning is slowly approaching. When I hear "God Bless America" I become ill. "God Bless Sodom and Gomorrah" is more appropriate. God loathes hypocrisy.
In the not-too-distant future, Asian banks are going to lose faith in the dollar and start dumping them. A catastrophic economic collapse is coming, brought on by many factors.
I could go on and on. The point is this country is dying. I know what's coming and it's only going to get worse. I am past caring because all I can do is gnash my teeth with helpless disgust. What I think means less than nothing.
Edmund Burke said "All needs to be done for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing". I once believed that. It's no more than a trite cliche now.
Just my 2 cents. Your efforts are noble, but you will find they will be in vain.
The US is going to continue to be overrun with aliens. The same thing happened to the Roman Empire and other great civilizations and we know what happened there.
The US is going to continue to lose political clout and influence in the world. The US will become a global laughingstock.
The European Union is the next world superpower and it ain't going to be pretty.
The war in Iraq is going to be for naught. Iran is going to take control of Iraq. Take that to the bank. Thousands of lives and billions of dollars all for nothing. All because Bush had a personal vendetta for Saddam Hussein.
The country is going to continue to morally decay. Gay marriage, pedophilia, late-term abortion. It's a pit of vipers and you ain't seen nothing yet.
There are not going to be anymore leaders of substance. The Roosevelts, Kennedy's, Churchills are long gone.
This country has turned it's back on God and given him the finger. It's day of reckoning is slowly approaching. When I hear "God Bless America" I become ill. "God Bless Sodom and Gomorrah" is more appropriate. God loathes hypocrisy.
In the not-too-distant future, Asian banks are going to lose faith in the dollar and start dumping them. A catastrophic economic collapse is coming, brought on by many factors.
I could go on and on. The point is this country is dying. I know what's coming and it's only going to get worse. I am past caring because all I can do is gnash my teeth with helpless disgust. What I think means less than nothing.
Edmund Burke said "All needs to be done for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing". I once believed that. It's no more than a trite cliche now.
Just my 2 cents. Your efforts are noble, but you will find they will be in vain.
Other countries have spent 3 generations hating us, we cannot undo that in 30 days!
We did not toss our country out the window yesterday, we've been working on it for DECADES!
We cannot TAKE OUR COUNTRY back in 30 days either! I've seen our lazyness allow our government to take over and rule us instead of us ruling them/it! I've been saying for the last 25 years (and I'm 42!) that we need another "Tea Party" NOBODY ever gets that! How sad! Look it up! Does "Taxation without representation" sound familar to you?
I just have to wait and see if we ever get tired & fed up enough to take our land & government back! I hope it's not too late when people wake up and realize they are working 80 hours a week for a life they gave away by failing to vote, and/or get involved. Didn't have the time I guess!
We are one of the richest countries in the world, yet we can't feed nor school OUR children, we can't care for our elders, and we don't care for our animals! Yet we play "High & Mighty"! Bla! With our silver & gold we cannot do the most BASIC things to tend to our most basic needs! How sad for us! All that $$ doesn't buy much common sence either! We're under attack by the way....closing our boarders would make us safer! Then we'd only have to deal with the loonies all ready here and/or our own "home bread" versions!
There are 174 names for "God"....pick one! But what ever name or Deity you choose, PLEASE ask/beg for murcy on us stupid fools who take the time to care!
Wishing Blessings to All,
Becky
We did not toss our country out the window yesterday, we've been working on it for DECADES!
We cannot TAKE OUR COUNTRY back in 30 days either! I've seen our lazyness allow our government to take over and rule us instead of us ruling them/it! I've been saying for the last 25 years (and I'm 42!) that we need another "Tea Party" NOBODY ever gets that! How sad! Look it up! Does "Taxation without representation" sound familar to you?
I just have to wait and see if we ever get tired & fed up enough to take our land & government back! I hope it's not too late when people wake up and realize they are working 80 hours a week for a life they gave away by failing to vote, and/or get involved. Didn't have the time I guess!
We are one of the richest countries in the world, yet we can't feed nor school OUR children, we can't care for our elders, and we don't care for our animals! Yet we play "High & Mighty"! Bla! With our silver & gold we cannot do the most BASIC things to tend to our most basic needs! How sad for us! All that $$ doesn't buy much common sence either! We're under attack by the way....closing our boarders would make us safer! Then we'd only have to deal with the loonies all ready here and/or our own "home bread" versions!
There are 174 names for "God"....pick one! But what ever name or Deity you choose, PLEASE ask/beg for murcy on us stupid fools who take the time to care!
Wishing Blessings to All,
Becky
I feel like President Bush was pleased with the Democrats winning. I think he is elated about amnesty for illegals. I have lost my trust in President Bush. He seems to be a globalist. The true security of the USA lies at the southern border. Our nation is being invaded and AMERICAN citizens are being shafted.
Grassfire should look into and report on the North American Union being proposed by the private Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The Vice-Chairman of CFR is none other that Robert Rubin, Bill Clinton's Secretary of the Treasury. Board member include Madeline Albright, Tom Brokaw and various powerful Fortune 500 CEOs.
The North American Union proposal would for North America nations' abolish borders, establish a common currency similar to the Euro, blur the line between citizens and illegal aliens and establish an Inter-Parliamentary Group with power over our elected members of Congress.
Doesn't President Bush's comprehensive immigration plan fit right in with the North American Union plan? Of course it does.
The North American Union proposal would for North America nations' abolish borders, establish a common currency similar to the Euro, blur the line between citizens and illegal aliens and establish an Inter-Parliamentary Group with power over our elected members of Congress.
Doesn't President Bush's comprehensive immigration plan fit right in with the North American Union plan? Of course it does.
There is no need to fear the election results, can we not all agree that the "new" Dems are far more conservative than the "old" Dems? I am a conservative at heart, I call for action, unlike any we have seen, these are our employees, they work for us, no matter what passes in the next 2 years, we, as one must stand to question whatever changes, it is our constitutional right. There needs to be more people like Mr Elliot, stand up, do not complain to your friends, go to Washington,state your feelings, another one of our rights. The Dems I know are happy about the election, however, they are scared of what it means on this subject. Unity is what is all about, not just the grassroots people, but all of us, I pray, a third party will appear out of all of this, one of Unity, one of strong self worth, one that empowers all of us, one that will stand up and be proud of the USA. The far right and left, will die a quick death, I am wishing, the middle, without compromise, will do as the people wish, do as the people see. You may see this as impossible, it is not, that thinking causes the quagmire we are in now, it destroys what we have helped to build. Abortion needs to leave the political scene, it is a war neither side can win, because people feel differently is no need to push it, NO ONE can push thier will on another, nor can they judge, Jesus taught us that, the fates will be decided by Him, let Him do so. On a more National base, the immigration issue is serious, I have proposed for years that we, the USA, take a more "walk softly, carry a big stick" policy than we have, look to the core, the people here, what we have to say, we have never been truly heard, even here, with Steve's valiant efforts. It's time to lose our European roots, time to focus on the USA, and what our homegrown people have to offer, we can do it, we really can. Let us become arrogant, all of us, split the heart of the left and right, and come together. Each of us, with our party affiliations and beleifs,DROP THEM, let's get back to us, the USA, the land of freedom, the land of what God meant, we can show the world this, we've been able to for years, instead, we choose partisan politics and hard right or left holdings, let them go, and follow what we are meant to be, a Nation of equality, of Unity, let us stand together and take down politics as usual, something we all forget, our differences make us all the same.
I do not agree that Illegal Immigration is the most important issue at stake. I am voting based on the abortion issue, which I think is the greatest evil plaguing America today. I will vote Pro-life; the Amnesty bill is of subordinate importance. Certainly an influx of Catholic, hard-working Hispanics is better for our culturally bankrupt nation than the continuance of the horrible crime of mass infanticide.
Even the atrocities of Carthage pale in comparison to the carnage cause today, and I believe that it will not be long before another Scipio to meat out justice.
Even the atrocities of Carthage pale in comparison to the carnage cause today, and I believe that it will not be long before another Scipio to meat out justice.
As I watched the results come in Tuesday night, I had a sinking feeling in my stomach. I see in the near future the last remenants of the America we know and love being sold down the river (or across the river, in this case) to lawbreakers who don't respect our borders, language or culture. We hard-working, taxpaying, English speaking citizens who have made this country great will be quickly thrown aside in the Democrats efforts to appease Third World aliens, and our liberal Repub pres who wants to exploit cheap labor for his weathy business cronies. The scary part of this equation that seems to be forgotten by both sides are all the enemies of this country who regularly exploit our porous border. How many more 9/11's do we have to endure as a country before we see real immigration reform? I fear by the time it is realized that real reform is needed, it will be too late.
I think the only thing left to do is THE PEOPLE MUST CLOSE THE BORDER THEM SELFS, if they don't this country will FALL
Let's Say I Break into Your House
A lady wrote the best letter in the Editorials in ages!! It explains things better than all the baloney you hear on TV.
Recently large demonstrations have taken place across the country protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that the US might protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and, once here, to stay indefinitely. Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests.
Let's say, I break into your house. Let's say, that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors; I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house).
According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must add me to your family's insurance plan, educate my kids, and provide other benefits to me and to my family (my husband will do your yard work because he too is hard-working & honest, except for that breaking in part).
If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be there. It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm hard working and honest, um, except for, well, you know.
And what a deal it is for me!! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of selfishness, prejudice, and being an anti-housebreaker. Oh yeah, and I want you to learn my language so you can communicate with me.
Why can't people see how ridiculous this is?! Only in America... DeleteReplyForwardMove...
A lady wrote the best letter in the Editorials in ages!! It explains things better than all the baloney you hear on TV.
Recently large demonstrations have taken place across the country protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that the US might protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and, once here, to stay indefinitely. Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests.
Let's say, I break into your house. Let's say, that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors; I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house).
According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must add me to your family's insurance plan, educate my kids, and provide other benefits to me and to my family (my husband will do your yard work because he too is hard-working & honest, except for that breaking in part).
If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be there. It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm hard working and honest, um, except for, well, you know.
And what a deal it is for me!! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of selfishness, prejudice, and being an anti-housebreaker. Oh yeah, and I want you to learn my language so you can communicate with me.
Why can't people see how ridiculous this is?! Only in America... DeleteReplyForwardMove...
I believe all this is leading up to the tribulation. God puts every leader into place. We cannot change his plans but perhaps we can postpone it if we all cry out to God in repentance, and if we ask our president to rethink this, and the law he signed, making every person in our land receive the "real ID card" by the year 2008.
I am thrilled at the way the election turned out! Yeah Democrates! The repblicans have been making asses of all americans for too long! The war we should nver have strated. However I am strongly against any ammensty for illegal immagrats. We just have to let our new democrates know that we strongly appose that issue. Democrates started Socila Security and so many other good things, not the repbulicans. The demorcrates will do the right thing about the illegals. We know they have done so much good for our country in the past! Democrtaes are for the middle class, low income and affordable health care. The rebplicans have had there rules and do gooders for the rich only much too long. It was past time for a change from the rich repbulicans loving and helping only the other rich! I hope Hilary Clinton is our next president! Bush has been nothing but a liar and an ass and I for one am sick of his smirk ( he thinks is a grin). Put handcuffs on that fool Bush and lets get him out there. the economy will then get back in good shape for all working class people. The mexicans should be shipped home and on this I stand frim. The other issues the democrates stand for I say gung-ho!!! Yes! Too many rich, smart mouth repbulicans for way too long! We will see great changes now, especially when we get a democrate president in office too and we will!!!!! You mark my word. I am a christian and I still think a woman has a right to abortion, and yes for stem cell research!!! No on illegals and Gay marriages. That is what we need to let them know now, and they will work with us unlike the repbulicans who have turned not just a deft ear, but their complete backs to us! God knew this country had been on her knees with her beatiful face in the mud too long!
The congressional Republicans got what they deserved by "supporting" this moron, aka "El Presidente Jorge Boosh." It's just too bad we don't have a parliamentary form of government; then Boosh would have been defeated in his own district, or at least been relegated to a "back-bencher" by a new government. Now, we have the worst of both worlds - a Democratic House, and Boosh, the globalist, in the White House. I say "God help us" - even though I'm agnostic!
First I believe the President is happy to have like minded people in charge of the House so he may pass his beloved BLANKET AMNESTY bill for ILLEGALS. I hope he remembers turning on his own voters while the House is impeaching him.
I would like to thank the past House of Representatives for their stance on ILLEGALS and Border Security!!!! I was happy to hear one member’s statement concerning the fact that the ILLEGALS should stay home "because they are so hard working" and help build there own country instead of draining the resources our country.
Remember when the President was comparing apples to oranges at the Donut Shop in the D.C. area and maybe intentionally attempting to mislead the ILLEGAL Immigration fight. Hopefully the President was not praising the owners thinking they were illegals, I assume he had confirmed that they were legal. The concern is not “legal” immigration it is “illegal” immigration. The President must be desperate to attempt such tactics to hoodwink the American Citizens. I hope the House continues to stand up for Americans and Secure our borders and fight for interior enforcement of our immigration laws.
I hope the House will continue to stand up against the Senate and President for the American citizens. Maybe even a few more senators will discover a backbone and support you in this battle. However, I am afraid the Chamber of Commerce and other special interests control most of the senate.
Please let the President know that many of us who voted twice for him as President, also in my case two times for governor, are disappointed in his stance for BLANKET AMNESTY for the ILLEGALS, no matter how amnesty is defined by the President. The President has endorsed the Senate's position of “BLANKET AMNESTY” for ILLEGALS not the House's border security first position. I understand why the Chamber of Commerce, Business interests, and the few others whose bottom line is directly increased are supporting the ILLEGALS. These special interests do not have to furnish benefits to ILLEGALS. Their benefits are paid for by taxes via the ever increasing cost of health care, the suffocating of our education system, and any other social or public works program that have their expenditures enlarged so the few can have their bottom line increased. He seems to be more worried about the rights of the ILLEGALS and the Chamber of Commerce instead of the rights of everyday citizens.
How in good conscience can he and the Congress send our young men and women half way around the world in harms way for the defense of our country and refuse to defend our national borders?
I have never before had one issue that determined my voting position, but ILLEGALS invading my country with the consent of my government and its elected leaders have galvanized my support for any politician who is brave enough to protect our borders and support interior enforcement of our immigration laws.
No new bill would be better than the Senate's Blanket Amnesty bill. If nothing else the existing immigration laws should be enforced.
I would like to thank the past House of Representatives for their stance on ILLEGALS and Border Security!!!! I was happy to hear one member’s statement concerning the fact that the ILLEGALS should stay home "because they are so hard working" and help build there own country instead of draining the resources our country.
Remember when the President was comparing apples to oranges at the Donut Shop in the D.C. area and maybe intentionally attempting to mislead the ILLEGAL Immigration fight. Hopefully the President was not praising the owners thinking they were illegals, I assume he had confirmed that they were legal. The concern is not “legal” immigration it is “illegal” immigration. The President must be desperate to attempt such tactics to hoodwink the American Citizens. I hope the House continues to stand up for Americans and Secure our borders and fight for interior enforcement of our immigration laws.
I hope the House will continue to stand up against the Senate and President for the American citizens. Maybe even a few more senators will discover a backbone and support you in this battle. However, I am afraid the Chamber of Commerce and other special interests control most of the senate.
Please let the President know that many of us who voted twice for him as President, also in my case two times for governor, are disappointed in his stance for BLANKET AMNESTY for the ILLEGALS, no matter how amnesty is defined by the President. The President has endorsed the Senate's position of “BLANKET AMNESTY” for ILLEGALS not the House's border security first position. I understand why the Chamber of Commerce, Business interests, and the few others whose bottom line is directly increased are supporting the ILLEGALS. These special interests do not have to furnish benefits to ILLEGALS. Their benefits are paid for by taxes via the ever increasing cost of health care, the suffocating of our education system, and any other social or public works program that have their expenditures enlarged so the few can have their bottom line increased. He seems to be more worried about the rights of the ILLEGALS and the Chamber of Commerce instead of the rights of everyday citizens.
How in good conscience can he and the Congress send our young men and women half way around the world in harms way for the defense of our country and refuse to defend our national borders?
I have never before had one issue that determined my voting position, but ILLEGALS invading my country with the consent of my government and its elected leaders have galvanized my support for any politician who is brave enough to protect our borders and support interior enforcement of our immigration laws.
No new bill would be better than the Senate's Blanket Amnesty bill. If nothing else the existing immigration laws should be enforced.
It's no wonder the Republicans lost the House and Senate. I am changing my political affiliation to Independent for the 08 election inhopes of getting a candidate who will do what is best for America and not for big business.
Hmmm. I'm a professional Spanish interpreter ... next time you have coffee with Bush or the House democrats, ask them how they feels about LEPROSY, CHANGAS disease, Antibiotic resistant TUBERCULOSIS, rampant STD's, etc.
7,000 reported cases of Leprosy last year -- contagious, infectious third world disease.
7,000 reported cases of Leprosy last year -- contagious, infectious third world disease.
First thing we need to press, is for the gov't to interpret the 14th amendment as intended, with juridiction and residency, not sneak over the border and you pop out a U.S. citizen.
I just wish I knew what happened to the President's faith a while back. He knows the Bible and I do believe he was living his faith. Was it when the Methodist Church Bishops called for not giving any money to Israel and give it to the Palistinians and Bush had to chose somewhere in there to keep his wife or lead like the Lord wanted him to? Was it his Episcopal mother (they now believe Jesus is not the only way for salvation) along with his wife? President Bush, what happened to your faith and your love for the Lord? It was what this nation needed. Of course Satan hated you, me and the rest who want to keep God's hand over this country. Oh how thrilled we were to see you bow your head in prayer when you first became president. Then was it beneath your dignity to bow to the King of Kings? I pray everyday for you. But, it has become so hard to keep it up. What happened Mr. President???
As others have noted with disgust, I voted for Bush both times and am appalled that he could come out and state that "now maybe we can get something done on the amnesty"! Spoken like the RINO that he must be! He and many others in Republican office have no backbone at all. Think back at past Presidents; most had more backbone than to allow all the constant attacks against his integrity to go on without a murmur, except when asked he said "that's politics". We are in big trouble, but we can't stop fighting! God help us all.
THESE ILLEGAL MEXICIANS ARE GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER IN OUR OWN COUNTRY, THERE IS NO TIME TO WASTE LET'S GET THEM OUT OF HERE< BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.THEY ARE STILL COMING IN LIKE FLIES,Millions are undergroung..
Blaming President Bush for all the ills in our country is getting quite boring. The election results is not President Bush's fault! The American people have only themselves to blame. They are the ones who went into that booth and voted for: Amnesty for illegals; Abortion; Higher taxes; Socialized medicine; Abandoning Iraq; More terrorist attacks in America; Homosexual marriages; Separation of Church and State; Raising the minimum wage (which brings inflation with it); patterning America after Europe; Abandoning Israel; Paving the way for a Democrat President in 2008, and a whole lot more!
We have only ourselves to blame. Voters professing to be Christian, voting in the party whose platform God says is an abomination to him. God says you cannot serve two masters. You cannot be a Christian and a supporter and member of a humanistic, liberal Party. The two cannot be reconciled!!
The results of this election tells me there are fewer true Christians
in this Country who actually practice their Christianity, and who are politically informed.
I also listened to several commentators hailing the number of "young" voters participating in this election. Given the prevailing liberal agenda being taught in our institutions of higher learning, is it any wonder the Democrats won the House and Senate? Because our children are not getting a solid Christian up-bringing in their homes, is it any wonder they become brain-washed when they go away to college? This liberal education is being perpetuated from generation to future generation, and is apparently having an impact upon our political system. Just look at what the message of hate has done for the generations in the Middle East. What a contrast to the teachings of Christ we recently observed within the Amish Community.
No folks, President Bush is not responsible for the disasterous results in our elections. WE ARE!
And God will give America exactly what she deserves. The Church is waxing cold, and prophecy is being fulfilled. The people are calling good evil and evil good. The count-down has begun. God raises one man up and puts another down to fulfill His purposes.
We have only ourselves to blame. Voters professing to be Christian, voting in the party whose platform God says is an abomination to him. God says you cannot serve two masters. You cannot be a Christian and a supporter and member of a humanistic, liberal Party. The two cannot be reconciled!!
The results of this election tells me there are fewer true Christians
in this Country who actually practice their Christianity, and who are politically informed.
I also listened to several commentators hailing the number of "young" voters participating in this election. Given the prevailing liberal agenda being taught in our institutions of higher learning, is it any wonder the Democrats won the House and Senate? Because our children are not getting a solid Christian up-bringing in their homes, is it any wonder they become brain-washed when they go away to college? This liberal education is being perpetuated from generation to future generation, and is apparently having an impact upon our political system. Just look at what the message of hate has done for the generations in the Middle East. What a contrast to the teachings of Christ we recently observed within the Amish Community.
No folks, President Bush is not responsible for the disasterous results in our elections. WE ARE!
And God will give America exactly what she deserves. The Church is waxing cold, and prophecy is being fulfilled. The people are calling good evil and evil good. The count-down has begun. God raises one man up and puts another down to fulfill His purposes.
I am very saddened by the recent turnout of this election. I attended a political rally fri. night--heard our godly attorney general make an impassioned speech about rapists getting off scott free while the pregnant 13-year old gets an abortion at the Abortion Capital of The World, Wichita, KS. And I feel ashamed to have this "nice" city named that. Our beloved attorney general Kline lost, plus the Dem. governor kept her seat, and a liberal will replace Kline as attorney general! Result? Those three liberals will help each other! Who is this third person? Why, none other that George Tiller himself. (I will not call him a doctor)--he has paid blood money to help elect these liberals who in turn will help him. The fact that he does late term abortions, not to mention any other type, sickens me! I am deeply saddened and am just waiting to witness the toboggan slide our once great nation will soon experience. Bush is a globalist and he does not mind if and when we turn into the North American Union. So we can fight for our rights and send faxes and emails and keep trying, but prophecy seems to want to be fulfilled right now. But as my mother (and Churchill)said, Never, never give up!! So I will keep trying. God bless America!!
seriously, there is no need for any discussion on this issue. illegal is just that, illegal! round them all up, confiscate everything they have to pay for the all the privlages they have illegaly taken advantage of and dump them back where they came from. then send Vicente Fox the bill for their transport. by the way, if they were swedish super models I'd say the same thing. arizona just anounced that english is the official language there. can you believe that? they actually had to vote on that, it wasn't obvious what the official language was?
You want to turn our government back to the people? Stop paying your taxes! How much of your tax dollar supports you and how much of it supports the demise of America? Through our taxes, we are financing our own death. Everyone in politics is rich, they have to be to campaign for office. Take away our tax dollars and you'll find out how much they believe in what they are trying to sell us......how much of their own wealth are they willing to spend on programs that they are investing our tax dollar in?
OK, instead of griping about all this. Let's start thinking of ways to solve the problem.
The illegals did their boycott, now it's time for us to do ours. Start phoning any business that advertises in any language other than English and tell them that because of that, you and your friends are not going to use their services or buy their product anymore. When you are at a restaurant and suspect that the waiter/waitress is an illegal, DO NOT TIP THEM! If you hear them speak another language other than English, DO NOT TIP THEM! DO NOT HIRE THEM to do your lawns or anything else. Either do the work yourself or find an American citizen to do the work. ADVERTISE in the newspaper for an ENGLISH-SPEAKING CITIZEN to do the work. If you're not sure if they're a citizen, assume they are NOT! It's time to stop being politically correct! It's killing our country! If you are going to have a business come out to your place to do some kind of work, tell them that if they send anyone out that even APPEARS to be an illegal, you will not pay them or use their services.
Make things miserable for them so that they will give up and go home!
The next step is to stop them from voting. There should be a law passed that says if they are caught voting illegally, they will NEVER BE ELIGIBLE to become a US citizen.
LEGAL, OK. ILLEGAL, NOT OK.
If they can't speak English, DON'T HELP THEM!
The illegals did their boycott, now it's time for us to do ours. Start phoning any business that advertises in any language other than English and tell them that because of that, you and your friends are not going to use their services or buy their product anymore. When you are at a restaurant and suspect that the waiter/waitress is an illegal, DO NOT TIP THEM! If you hear them speak another language other than English, DO NOT TIP THEM! DO NOT HIRE THEM to do your lawns or anything else. Either do the work yourself or find an American citizen to do the work. ADVERTISE in the newspaper for an ENGLISH-SPEAKING CITIZEN to do the work. If you're not sure if they're a citizen, assume they are NOT! It's time to stop being politically correct! It's killing our country! If you are going to have a business come out to your place to do some kind of work, tell them that if they send anyone out that even APPEARS to be an illegal, you will not pay them or use their services.
Make things miserable for them so that they will give up and go home!
The next step is to stop them from voting. There should be a law passed that says if they are caught voting illegally, they will NEVER BE ELIGIBLE to become a US citizen.
LEGAL, OK. ILLEGAL, NOT OK.
If they can't speak English, DON'T HELP THEM!
well it's time for the real fight for true Americans. We shall not lay down or cross our arms, but take the beast head on and make a strong statement contact the new congress in charge and senates flood them with letters, emails, and don't forget the phones calls.
Resident of Compton, CA
Resident of Compton, CA
I think we are treading in dangerous waters. To grant amnesty to people here illegally sets very scary precident. Illegals from all over the world will see that it is as easy as getting here, screaming that you want citizenship because you are already here, protest a little, and our Government will cave in. Look, I think it is deplorable the conditions that the people of Latino countries have to endure. I also think that they should take initiative to retake their countries from their corrupt leaders. To come here, ILLIGALLY, says something about the people that make that choice. If it is ok to ignore our legal soverignty for their personal gain, then how about stealing for personal gain. Is that ok too? This arguement that our economy couldn't live without illegal immigrants is ridiculous. If you calculate all the crime(deportation costs, jail/prison housing, id theft, personal loss by the victim, etc.)and the strain on our social services, I bet you would find that it offsets quite a bit. For businesses that use illegal labor because they couldn't afford to operate otherwise... You don't deserve to be in business! If I don't have the startup capital for my next business venture should everybody be ok with me robbing a bank for the funds? I think not. I think it sad that, as a whole, our country has been so morally and reasonably eroded. We are one of the youngest countries on the globe, but I think we will reach our social demise before so many others. Too bad. We as a nation have lost our will to do what is right for America. Everybody is afraid if being labeled, and that's sad. I prey for my boys' future, I'll prey for your children too.
Larry is right. We have to mobilize and fight back. Quit going to the local carwash and wash your own car! Teens need to be taught a work ethic. Put away their Ipod and stop playing video games. We all used to have cleaning and gardening jobs and paper routes when we were kids. Now this work is done by illegals. We are all to blame for being lazy!
I think ALL our leaders are selling us down the river! Criminals are criminals. Just because you have brown skin and speak no English doesn't make it all ok.
We could try to impeach all our politicians, but like Clinton, they would probably remain in office!
What can we do? Where is the next protest? I wish to attend!
We could try to impeach all our politicians, but like Clinton, they would probably remain in office!
What can we do? Where is the next protest? I wish to attend!
Well I think its about time that we as American's start standing up and quit letting the government smoothe over issues like immigration. Instead of illegals demonstrating in the streets, I think we as Americans should take to the streets. The hell with government using other bills to get their agenda spread out. It doesnt matter ,that we're lied to all the time, huh!. Well, If Steve would organize demonstrations for the American people ,maybe we would get our point accross. These people in government are going to wait until millions get killed with one of the terrorist attacks that come across the Mexican border before they take a real stand on these illegals.Believe me , If people don't think that these large terrorist groups cant convince,with money, large amounts of money, anyone of these illegals that are so desperately in need of it ,to take a small package and deliver it to a specific place,they are sadly mistaken.
Passing an amnesty bill is a deal breaker for me. The inevitable result will be the creation of millions of more "victims" for the Democratic voter plantation. Our taxes will go up. Our electoral process will be even more contaminated with the votes of non-citizens. Productive American-born tax payers will be come nothing but economic slaves who are expected to support a massive increase in entitlement programs. Eventually, this will result in a significant and violent reaction. Thank God for the Second Amendment.
This country was founded on faith and GOD, And the sword. When the wicked are at your door do not welcome them in, pick up the sword and defeat him. The time is getting right for a cleansing in this country, take her back AMERICANS or pay the price for the shame that our PREZ has put upon us. Bush is a sellout very simple to say that and a coward not to pick up the sword and take my country back from the WETBACKS that are killing us and bank rupting us as well. It is time to arm your selves for what is to come.We must protect our borders and rid this country of the filth that is killing her.
The globalists, Bill Clinton, both Bushes, Jimmy Carter,The Council on Foreign Relations, have all the bases covered. Even Mr Sweeney, union honcho is one of "them". Let the illegals in, leave them long enough to marry U.S. citizen spouses, have U.S. citizen kids. They alredey say"we can't just deport l2 million people. Of course we can but will not. I will continue to fight but we have lost this one. We are losing our country. It is The New World Order.
The results of the election are horrific. I wonder if anyone else remembers this: During the Southeast Asian conflict the definition of "ally" was in serious question. We kept seeing the same guys coming at us in the night as were standing beside us in the day. We couldn't tell the difference because they looked the same. Are we ready for a "Viet Nam style war" in the streets of Los Angeles and Houston? With amnesty immenent for 12-20 million illegal aliens, most of whom are openly antagonistic if not categorically hostile to America and most things American, how are "we" going to determine who is with us and who's against us? If these PARDONED illegal aliens get it together enough to take it to the streets, will some of our major southwester cities come to resemble Saigon in 1974? Heaven help us! The hand writing on the wall sugests the possibility exists.
This country is being overruned daily by hords of illegals, what does BUSH not get about illegals? Simple people he has been asleep at the switch. Sadam was under control, we could bomb him when ever, the country was surrounded and no where to go. But bring up our own border security and El Presadante pisses his pants because he does not care. Damn it people wake up pull the switch and take your country back. Bush does not care at all, he does not even put on a good face when lying. Just think I voted for him the first time, not the second I could see that he was a failure as a man because of this bullshit political correctness. AMERICANS time is coming that you will one day have to protect your own homes from the
illegals that have destroyed this country by the helping hand of BUSH. GOD help us all, prepare yourselves the day is upon us.
illegals that have destroyed this country by the helping hand of BUSH. GOD help us all, prepare yourselves the day is upon us.
We must take our country back. Our government is not going to do it with or for us! It is going to be up to the God fearing, tax paying American's to do it and the time is getting close!
Mid Term Elections
I am a 46-year-old Hispanic Conservative Republican and know the Border issue played a big roll in everything the Republican Party failed us they just couldn’t get it right we put these people in office and they did nothing but cave to the Dems. These republicans were in name only and we paid a major price for it. so let’s go back to the drawing board it’s never to late.
First yes I am very disappointed but not so much with the election outcome, I am reminded of a time when I invested so much time and effort into something only to have to scrap it at the end, having to start all over from scratch reminded me at every step just what went wrong so that the same mistakes would not be repeated.
Sometimes things happen for reasons we can’t understand or accept at first only to have it cloudy and distorted, then once you step back it becomes crystal clear. Here’s my point the Republican Party is 1 of 2 alternatives we as Conservatives have that best suit or represent our vision and issues. We gave specific individuals our vote that elected them to represent us, unfortunately when the time came for them to do just that they literally failed its no surprise we lost the House and the Senate, hell I saw the flames from a distance. They had every opportunity to redeem themselves when it came to the Border Issue or getting Confirmations thru but lets get back to the issue at hand total granted with the likes of Democrat obstructionist certain things like a Republican control backbone could have proved the difference from the alternative disappointments and letdown not acting on issues is the charge but the bottom line is they did act. And that was the downfall it was all an act. Telling us they stood for something when in fact they stood for nothing. Concerned Conservative A.Tavizon
I am a 46-year-old Hispanic Conservative Republican and know the Border issue played a big roll in everything the Republican Party failed us they just couldn’t get it right we put these people in office and they did nothing but cave to the Dems. These republicans were in name only and we paid a major price for it. so let’s go back to the drawing board it’s never to late.
First yes I am very disappointed but not so much with the election outcome, I am reminded of a time when I invested so much time and effort into something only to have to scrap it at the end, having to start all over from scratch reminded me at every step just what went wrong so that the same mistakes would not be repeated.
Sometimes things happen for reasons we can’t understand or accept at first only to have it cloudy and distorted, then once you step back it becomes crystal clear. Here’s my point the Republican Party is 1 of 2 alternatives we as Conservatives have that best suit or represent our vision and issues. We gave specific individuals our vote that elected them to represent us, unfortunately when the time came for them to do just that they literally failed its no surprise we lost the House and the Senate, hell I saw the flames from a distance. They had every opportunity to redeem themselves when it came to the Border Issue or getting Confirmations thru but lets get back to the issue at hand total granted with the likes of Democrat obstructionist certain things like a Republican control backbone could have proved the difference from the alternative disappointments and letdown not acting on issues is the charge but the bottom line is they did act. And that was the downfall it was all an act. Telling us they stood for something when in fact they stood for nothing. Concerned Conservative A.Tavizon
America as we know it will not exist in 20 years. We will be a 3rd world country with many squabbling minorities. Each out for themselves. WHEN bush pushes amnesty through (and he will, make no mistake) with the help of the dem congress, we will not only legalize 20M-30M, we will also set ourselves up for a chain migration unlike we have ever witnessed. That 20M will become 80M-100M in 2 decades. Add that to the current 1M+ legal immigrants annually, the unlimited guest workers with their anchor babies (they will never be temporary), and the next big wave of illegal immigration to fill the cheap labor jobs the guest workers will not take, and we are staring at a population increase unprecedented in history. And the population increase will come from 3rd world countries with different culture and values than Americans. Our culture will be minimalized under the weight of multiculturalism. And once the 3rd worlders can vote, they will always vote for more wealth redistribution. After all, the lazy gringos do not deserve to have more than the newcomers. Immigration will NEVER be stopped as there will not be enough of us to overcome their voting block. Immigration will be a free for all. Conservative parties will become the fringe. The dems know this, and for the life of me I can not understand why bush does not understand that the conservative parties will not get the majority of hispanic vote. He is not only committing national suicide, but conservative suicide as well.
Once amnesty passed it can NEVER be undone. There is no do-over on this issue. It is not like tax cuts or foreign policy. Those can be changed with the next congress or president. But amnesty is not reversible, which is why it was so crucial to get "attrtion" polices and enforcement enacted while the repubs (assumed conservative but proved otherwise) were the majority. But they blew it and the American public does not understand what they just did b y elevting dems. Now we will get an immigration policy that we must live with as long as the country lasts. It is utter cultural suicide to western values in America.
I an saddened about this, but I am no longer patriotic. I will simply take all I can while I can. I will not ask my son to fight for this country, like my father and grand father did. It is no longer a nation, it is a tradking block for sale to the highest bidder. All of my decisions will be based on what is best for me and my family from now on. Not the country. I have done everything I could to wake this country up to the perils of mass immigration, illegal immgiraiton, and PC. I have been to rally's, border vigils, and donated to the many organizations fighting this mess. To no avail. Americans need an empty belly and some hard times to wake up to what is important. The homeland and culture!!! All else is secondary. Good luck to all but think seriously about plans to get out of america if amensty passes. If you don't beleive me, look at the qulity of life and environment in over corwded countries like China and India. It is not pretty.
Once amnesty passed it can NEVER be undone. There is no do-over on this issue. It is not like tax cuts or foreign policy. Those can be changed with the next congress or president. But amnesty is not reversible, which is why it was so crucial to get "attrtion" polices and enforcement enacted while the repubs (assumed conservative but proved otherwise) were the majority. But they blew it and the American public does not understand what they just did b y elevting dems. Now we will get an immigration policy that we must live with as long as the country lasts. It is utter cultural suicide to western values in America.
I an saddened about this, but I am no longer patriotic. I will simply take all I can while I can. I will not ask my son to fight for this country, like my father and grand father did. It is no longer a nation, it is a tradking block for sale to the highest bidder. All of my decisions will be based on what is best for me and my family from now on. Not the country. I have done everything I could to wake this country up to the perils of mass immigration, illegal immgiraiton, and PC. I have been to rally's, border vigils, and donated to the many organizations fighting this mess. To no avail. Americans need an empty belly and some hard times to wake up to what is important. The homeland and culture!!! All else is secondary. Good luck to all but think seriously about plans to get out of america if amensty passes. If you don't beleive me, look at the qulity of life and environment in over corwded countries like China and India. It is not pretty.
I'm exhausted! The thought of continuing to waste my time on this or any other issue sickens me! We're doomed!
I think it has all been said above. What a great disappointment this election has been. I wonder what is the I.Q. of the voting public. It looks pretty low to me. What happened in AZ? The State goes Democrat yet votes for English as our language. Go figure!!
Many have expressed disgust in the lack of conservative voter turn-out.But what could expected ?-reward a party that has deserted its conservative supporters that put them in office ?? The big problem is G.Bush-his laedership toward liberal programs.
Pelosi,as House majority leader,will butcher him on anything that is not liberal.He is now a very lame duck in the water of socialist-liberalism.Bush was a bad choice in 2000,maybe a real conservative will show up in 2008.
Pelosi,as House majority leader,will butcher him on anything that is not liberal.He is now a very lame duck in the water of socialist-liberalism.Bush was a bad choice in 2000,maybe a real conservative will show up in 2008.
Even though I'm retired I just don't have the time to read your write up which is too long. Many years ago I learned that any letter that is more than one page long is more often than not put into file 13 or in the read later file.
I would like to suggest that you write shorter articles that cover one point at a time.
I would like to suggest that you write shorter articles that cover one point at a time.
Well...it's obvious that Karl Rove is not the genius some thought he was. I just wonder if there is anyone in the administration who has sense enough to understand that it was not the war that beat the Republicans and it wasn't the Democrats either. The Republicans beat themselves by not securing the borders and Bush led the charge.
To me all this came about at the wrong time. I think that with all the people we lost on 9/11 the president would be thinking the opposite, and want to get rid of all illegal immigants. The border patrol should be able to do what they have to in order to protect our country. President Bush forget amnisty for illegal immigrants!
Our Ill's have been coming for a long time. And it is the Christians that have failed. We complain about all sorts of problems and wonder what is going on. But where we have failed the most is in prayer. If the people of God would pray and be led by the Holy Spirit our nation would not be in this situation. We will get a Liberal Democrate President in the next election and we will jump from the frying pan into the fire. God will no longer honour our liberal leaders and will bring on His judgement. Look out, Jesus is comming and you can count on that.
Here's a wake up call for you . . . there are a lot of moderate, yes, MODERATE people who are against illegal immigration. Unfortunately, when I see this ultra right wing stuff posted on Grassfire, it makes me very wary of getting involved and associated with it any further.
I think Bush and the rest of the GOP needed the slap in the face to snap them out of their arrogant stupor. Yes, I am certainly concerned that the Democratic Congress, coupled with Bush's pro-amnesty agenda, will pass pro-illegal legislation, which infuriates me. But, let's face it, so many of the GOP you all apparently love so much were willing to sell out our country to special corporate interests that benefit from cheap labor, while taxpayers foot the bill.
IF YOU WANT TO WIN THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION BATTLE, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REALIZE THAT EVERYONE WHO IS STRONG BORDER SECURITY/ANTI-ILLEGAL IS NOT NECESSARILY AGAINST PRO-CHOICE, ANTI-GAY, FOR A PROLIFERATION OF GUNS, ETC.
IN YOUR EXTREMISM ON OTHER ISSUES, DON'T MAKE MODERATE, INTELLIGENT, REASONABLE PEOPLE AFRAID TO JOIN YOU IN THE FIGHT!
In my opinion, Republicans and Democrats are equally corrupt and hypocritical. Why do so many people think God is a Republican? When I read my Bible, I see Jesus talks about giving all you have to the poor and following him. This is hardly what the GOP embraces.
I think Bush and the rest of the GOP needed the slap in the face to snap them out of their arrogant stupor. Yes, I am certainly concerned that the Democratic Congress, coupled with Bush's pro-amnesty agenda, will pass pro-illegal legislation, which infuriates me. But, let's face it, so many of the GOP you all apparently love so much were willing to sell out our country to special corporate interests that benefit from cheap labor, while taxpayers foot the bill.
IF YOU WANT TO WIN THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION BATTLE, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REALIZE THAT EVERYONE WHO IS STRONG BORDER SECURITY/ANTI-ILLEGAL IS NOT NECESSARILY AGAINST PRO-CHOICE, ANTI-GAY, FOR A PROLIFERATION OF GUNS, ETC.
IN YOUR EXTREMISM ON OTHER ISSUES, DON'T MAKE MODERATE, INTELLIGENT, REASONABLE PEOPLE AFRAID TO JOIN YOU IN THE FIGHT!
In my opinion, Republicans and Democrats are equally corrupt and hypocritical. Why do so many people think God is a Republican? When I read my Bible, I see Jesus talks about giving all you have to the poor and following him. This is hardly what the GOP embraces.
Have you read the bio on Nancy Pelosi.....fascinating. Let's all remember she's third away from the presidency. She's absolutely gung ho for abortion, including partial birth abortion. I think she and any others who approve of abortion and especially partial birth abortion should be required to spend one week at the side of the abortionist...I don't think most people understand what abortion really looks like. I was especially sickened by Ms. Pelosi's comment that "we Americans CHERISH our right to abort"....please.....who are these people she appears to be quoting?
Well, the years to follow are going to be interesting in the least. For those Christians who approve of abortion...please read Psalm 139, you'll find God knows you before, during and after your birth.
Linda - Arizona
Well, the years to follow are going to be interesting in the least. For those Christians who approve of abortion...please read Psalm 139, you'll find God knows you before, during and after your birth.
Linda - Arizona
I agree with "anonymous". LOL. Wish it were easier to ID people's posts.
There are many "moderates" who are against amnesty. But the dems overwhelmingly supported every amensty proposal thrown out there. So when dems won the congress, bush won his amnesty. And yes, the repubs needed a good slap in the face. But it cam at the wrong time. Amensty is a 1 time shot. if passed, it can not be reversed. I also agree that abortion, gay rights, and all this other BS is secondary (I could care less about those issues) to immigration issues. I am just glad to see that more than repukes oppose amensty. Not everyone posting here is a "Far right wing" proponent. This from a soon to be former republican, switching to independent. I have had it.
There are many "moderates" who are against amnesty. But the dems overwhelmingly supported every amensty proposal thrown out there. So when dems won the congress, bush won his amnesty. And yes, the repubs needed a good slap in the face. But it cam at the wrong time. Amensty is a 1 time shot. if passed, it can not be reversed. I also agree that abortion, gay rights, and all this other BS is secondary (I could care less about those issues) to immigration issues. I am just glad to see that more than repukes oppose amensty. Not everyone posting here is a "Far right wing" proponent. This from a soon to be former republican, switching to independent. I have had it.
Yes I was bummed too, But we worked hard on Local campaigns. Though we lost, we will move forward and with everyones resolve we will turn this tide in our countrys favor once again. We did not win our first rounds during the revolution, we lost the first few rounds during the civil war and world war II dealt us some serious blows before we took the battle to the gates and I see this as no different. Our predecessors persevered and we will too!
The battle is never over! President Bush has always been the wrong person for President, as was his father! The majority of Americans are against Illegals, guest workers, amnesty and so on but will not put up with the corruption of the Republican Party, the political gain's from big oil, and Bush's WMD excuse! We now have to think of our childrens future!
A new, strong, and peoples party must be created to bring America back to the Great Nation it once was!
The Republicans/Democrates have been selling out America for years now!
signed:
"Wake Up America"
A new, strong, and peoples party must be created to bring America back to the Great Nation it once was!
The Republicans/Democrates have been selling out America for years now!
signed:
"Wake Up America"
One of the most disturbing things occurring in the past few years, is the complete lack of civility, common courtesy, class, or concern for the president and others in national office. During WWII this would almost have been treason. It's despicable. No one seems to be concerned about what's really best for the country, itself. Everything is about "me", "party",
"the war's lasting too long", or
"I don't have ___". Wars don't last two or three weeks. Had these people been in power during WWII we would have lost the war because they would not have been able to sacrifice new cars, sugar, gas, tires,candy, butter, nylons, etc. Our air raid drills would have damaged their psyche! Likewise today, the lack of immigration reform, concern for our troops and the catastrophic disaster to result from an early withdrawal from Iraq, will condemn the U.S. because our of failure to keep our promises to protect people. Who then, will trust the U.S. enough to help us when we need it? Broken agreements do not allies make!
"the war's lasting too long", or
"I don't have ___". Wars don't last two or three weeks. Had these people been in power during WWII we would have lost the war because they would not have been able to sacrifice new cars, sugar, gas, tires,candy, butter, nylons, etc. Our air raid drills would have damaged their psyche! Likewise today, the lack of immigration reform, concern for our troops and the catastrophic disaster to result from an early withdrawal from Iraq, will condemn the U.S. because our of failure to keep our promises to protect people. Who then, will trust the U.S. enough to help us when we need it? Broken agreements do not allies make!
Having read all the above comments, it is clear we're all feeling the same pain and betrayal.WE must pick ourselves back up and double our efforts. I am not going down without a fight! We may have lost the battle ,but the war continues. Keep the Faith! Craig
How dare you Republicans stay home and not vote because you are mad at the Senate and House? I am mad at them too, but I always vote anyhow, for the lesser of two evils. See now what you've done, and pat yourselves on the back. If you'd gone to vote, no changes would be so drastic!
So now, let's not give up...let's get to fighting for our country, otherwise we will become another European Union, which is in the making. Now I understand why President Bush won't do anything about our southern borders. Lord help us...we're being swamped here in the southwest...I am so angry to have to click on "English" or Spanish. I want a law passed to make english to be our national language now!!! When I was in Germany, I had to learn German, or I was out of luck. Keep a strong backbone, y'all.
So now, let's not give up...let's get to fighting for our country, otherwise we will become another European Union, which is in the making. Now I understand why President Bush won't do anything about our southern borders. Lord help us...we're being swamped here in the southwest...I am so angry to have to click on "English" or Spanish. I want a law passed to make english to be our national language now!!! When I was in Germany, I had to learn German, or I was out of luck. Keep a strong backbone, y'all.
As long as someone will employ an illegal, you will never defeat illegal immigration. Start knocking off employers, big and small... forget fence building. Destroy the job magnet by any means necessary.
It is time for the people to stand up and take back OUR country!! We are far off from the orignial design our forefathers had in mind for this nation. I say we need to bring the power back down to the States and their people! The power has been pulled up to the top and centralized around washington. Now, we have the Political Class all fighting over their individual throwns.
Signed,
Franklin
Signed,
Franklin
As those who have thought through this logically know, the only real answer to illegal immigration is to dry up the MAGNETS that draws them here. If we eliminate the jobs, the welfare, the anchor babies, and just plain make it uncomfortable to live here illegally, they will stop coming as word gets around. The added benefit is it causes "ATTRITION" of illegals currently here over a nubmer of years. If they can not make a living they will go home. So eliminating the magnets reduces pressure on the border from illegals and takes care of those already here illegally. In the process, saving taxpayers B$'s simply trying to secure the border. In other wrods, it is eaxctly oppostie of bush's guest worker plan.
I am a registered Republican who voted for those who were against illegal immigration. That just happened to mean I voted for Republicans on Nov 7th. I am not happy with how ALL of our politicians have handled illegal immigration, but when we lost the House to Democrats, it dealt a fatal blow to any hope that we can stop amnesty now. People need to become informed before they vote. Currently, they just vote whatever way the media influences them to vote and now we will all pay the price for the ignorant knee-jerk voting.
In addition, there were many rumors that Democrats registered illegal aliens to vote. I think we need to verify the validity of many voters before January.
I am prepared to do WHATEVER IT TAKES to protect our Constitution and our country from invasion by aliens.
In addition, there were many rumors that Democrats registered illegal aliens to vote. I think we need to verify the validity of many voters before January.
I am prepared to do WHATEVER IT TAKES to protect our Constitution and our country from invasion by aliens.
Now we must really step up to the plate to make sure our children and our children's children have a heritage and a nation they can be proud of. If we want to fight the immigration issue, AND WE MUST, then I suggest we unite not only with grassfire.org but also with www.numbersusa.com! They have already begun their free faxes to all members of congress asking to abolish the amnesty issue!
I am thoroughly disgusted with President Bush and the Republicans who refused to stay faithful to their Conservative base. So many of the things that they promised in the previous election just fell by the way side. They were too jelly-bellied to stand up to the Liberals and implement the things in which they so-called believed. Also one can see the glee with which President Bush plans to pursue his heart's desire to legalize illegals by way of Amnesty. As far as I'm concerned if he does this, he should be impeached. I am a born and bred Conservative and shall remain that way, but I have to wonder if the Republicans in Washington and those who have just been voted out are all just a bunch of liars. At least the Democrats didn't lie when they said that they hate the war, hate tax cuts, hate the border control, hate President Bush and all Conservatives, love homosexuality and marriage between same sexes, and love abortion.
As a conservative I, too, am extremely dissapointed in the Republicians in both houses of congress (especially those in leadership positions)and in President Bush as well! I am very much opposed to any ammensty program and feel strongly that securing our borders is one of our highest priorities. Heaven help us as we face the Democratic agendas the next two years!!!
Nothing short of another American Revolution will do any good. We are beyond voting. Democrats and Republicans are all the same. I don't understand how anyone could have been in favor of the Iraq war from the very beginning. It was so obvious Bush was telling a purposeful lie. I was one of a handful of protesters in my Texas town before the Iraq invasion. I will never forget how vicious and evil conservatives were to me. I was asking back then, why are we going to Iraq when our borders are left completeltely open? We are being invaded from Mexico, not Iraq. No one would listen. 85% of this country was bloodthirsty for the Iraq war while blind to the fact that we have been being destroyed from within for decades, much of it by our own politicians on both sides. It's all the New World Order plan in action, and the Iraq occupation was part of it. So is the merging of first world and third world countries through massive immigration and job outsourcing.
Nothing short of another American Revolution will do any good. We are beyond voting. Democrats and Republicans are all the same. I don't understand how anyone could have been in favor of the Iraq war from the very beginning. It was so obvious Bush was telling a purposeful lie. I was one of a handful of protesters in my Texas town before the Iraq invasion. I will never forget how vicious and evil conservatives were to me. I was asking back then, why are we going to Iraq when our borders are left completeltely open? We are being invaded from Mexico, not Iraq. No one would listen. 85% of this country was bloodthirsty for the Iraq war while blind to the fact that we have been being destroyed from within for decades, much of it by our own politicians on both sides. It's all the New World Order plan in action, and the Iraq occupation was part of it. So is the merging of first world and third world countries through massive immigration and job outsourcing.
It's all about votes and getting you or your party elected. Every illegal given citizenship is one vote for you or your party. So with those votes plus in a few years the Mex-American will be the majority ... you do the math.
Maybe armed citizens at the boarderswould send them back to Mexico. A slight hint. Works every time.
This is my second post, I have to apologize for that. The thoughts that run around religion in here are astonishing, Abortion is not a political issue, it will never be solved on that platform, God gave NO ONE the right to judge, nor did Jesus. This issue is HIS call, we the people, can not decide it, if we choose to try, in the ways I have seen, we are murderers in our own right. I do not agree with it myself, but I choose the way of God and His Son, I will not judge, for I am not one that has the power to do so, neither is ANYBODY else! I was imprisoned by the Catholic religon for years, I escaped, I ask all of you to "escape". The Church, in it's own right, seems to be the hand of salvation.............from the outside. I emplore all of you to look inside, and the politics you witnessed Tuesday, will pale in comparison to what you see "inside" the Church. I have very strong beleifs, rooted in Catholicism, my beleif in God has never wavered, my beleif in the Church slowly crumbled, to see what they have stolen from our souls. They impose God's law when they haven't an interest in what happens to you or me, just put your bit in the collection plate, and everything is hunky dory. If you choose to continue with your hypnotic love for what the Church stands for, so be it, it is your choice (not judging, notice that!)I feel the apocalypse will not find you in a pretty place.
Now, on the question of immigration, amnesty is not an answer, deportation is. I will not judge the illegals, they strive for a better life and have received one under our current situation. We started off as a country fed by immigrants, but, we all had to pay the price, become a citizen, and learn the laws of the land. I have to ask, what happened to those "laws" of the land? I am proposing, not only here in Raleigh, but, every where, create a day of protest, for Americans, "The no Illegals served day". The ACLU will have a ball with this one, however, the dreaded union can not forget one fact, if they feel this will be discrimination against people that don't even have rights here, the illegals protest day was a discrimination against Americans. Watch what happens when they have one day, only one, where these illegals can not get the supplies to get the job done! All of us will be amazed to find out who has hired these illegals, find where they are and commece with a dragnet, send them back,"IF YOU WANT IN, DO IT THE WAY OUR ANCESTORS HAD TO, LEGALLY!" English is our language, American is our heritage, learn it, feel it, live it or you just don't belong. The flag is ours, you left yours, do not bring it with you, it has NO meaning here, if you choose to fly yours, do it with respect. We welcome ALL, we always have, in the past, immigrants learned our laws respected what we had to offer, you shall do the same, if not, remember, you do not exist here in America, your fate and soul will rest with God................godspeed illegals, godspeed.
Now, on the question of immigration, amnesty is not an answer, deportation is. I will not judge the illegals, they strive for a better life and have received one under our current situation. We started off as a country fed by immigrants, but, we all had to pay the price, become a citizen, and learn the laws of the land. I have to ask, what happened to those "laws" of the land? I am proposing, not only here in Raleigh, but, every where, create a day of protest, for Americans, "The no Illegals served day". The ACLU will have a ball with this one, however, the dreaded union can not forget one fact, if they feel this will be discrimination against people that don't even have rights here, the illegals protest day was a discrimination against Americans. Watch what happens when they have one day, only one, where these illegals can not get the supplies to get the job done! All of us will be amazed to find out who has hired these illegals, find where they are and commece with a dragnet, send them back,"IF YOU WANT IN, DO IT THE WAY OUR ANCESTORS HAD TO, LEGALLY!" English is our language, American is our heritage, learn it, feel it, live it or you just don't belong. The flag is ours, you left yours, do not bring it with you, it has NO meaning here, if you choose to fly yours, do it with respect. We welcome ALL, we always have, in the past, immigrants learned our laws respected what we had to offer, you shall do the same, if not, remember, you do not exist here in America, your fate and soul will rest with God................godspeed illegals, godspeed.
I agree with all of the above. President Bush has betrayed those of us who voted for him, and so did the Republicans who have not done what we elected them to do. That would be to protect this nation from our enemies and actually work for the LEGAL citizens of this country. Working for themselves and their powerbase, not to mention all the nice perks they give themselves but not us, is one reason we are so disgusted with them. The two parties appear identical anymore. We don't seem to have much choice and what little we had we gave away.
How can anyone believe that dems, reps, libs, are all different. And further astonish by believing that dems are "for the people?" Just words and agendas. Social Security did nothing but steal money from hard working people who won't see a dime of it because it goes to all who are enticed to come to America. All it did was put a number in our back pocket. We, the 'free' people have been reduced to a number. Parties are made up of people, greedy, politically over-ambitious, and power hungry. Sure, their political platform is 'for the people,' so they raise taxes (steal your money) for a more equitable distribution (give to others who did not earn it).They are not any one of them your caretaker--what they do, they do for themselves--very few are sincere, and those who are, usually step down or disappear for one reason or another. Ask for nothing, expect nothing, take responsibility for yourself and for the consequences of your behavior. We 'deserve' what we 'earn.' We reap what we sow. Then spread good in the world, with your own money, as so many others have done in America's past. Read: "I Dissent, The Legacy of Justice James Clark McReynolds" and so many others, including Lysander Spooner and loyalist Jonathan Sewall. We are today where they said we would be. A disillusioned and displaced people, in a land where the government is free, not the people. I do not blame the immigrants, nor the individual, nor even those who are entitlement happy; no, the blame goes to the elected, those who supposedly are our servants, those elected who should represent the people--they don't really represent anyone but themselves. The puppets and their puppeteers--those behind-the- scene manipulators that nobody sees, or knows. The people have become distracted with toys and shifted focus -- so many lies, it is difficult to find the truth at the right time -- way too many agendas. For all the good they do, they leave a mighty trail of evil. It has been said that every government has its good and its bad, which I feel is true; however, this government has become unbalanced where there is more bad than good -- humans and rats are the only animals that kill their own kind...will this ever change? And, is it really necessary to go through so much devastation in order to create a global society? "Life is not so mathematically idiotic as to assume that the big always eat the small; for it happens just as often that the fly kills the lion, or at least drives it mad." Oh, if only this were a nightmare.
Where have all these flies come from?
Where have all these flies come from?
I think it is criminal to give illegals amnesty. Why is it acceptable and legal to dog men who have made valiant attempts to pay child support, and charge them thousands of dollars in interest on arrears, but illegals can sneak into our country and get welfare?
What is happening to our country is criminal. How can we teach our American children to respect the law when our own govenment allows illegals to break the law. Not work! Sell drugs to our children! Go on welfare! get social security! and when they are caught; they are let go right back into our back yards.
I want tougher laws. I want all these illegals to be sent to their Country of Origin and if they want to come back legally fine. otherwise, stay home and distroy your own country.
I want tougher laws. I want all these illegals to be sent to their Country of Origin and if they want to come back legally fine. otherwise, stay home and distroy your own country.
george bush, you are a sell out and a coward. you are not fit to be called president of the greatest country on GOD'S earth. you are a total,complete and utter failure not only as a man but as a president. you placed your hand on GOD'S book and took the american people's hand, and made a promise to this country. you broke your word, which means nothing anymore. you can redeam yourself by falling on your knees and asking GOD to forgive you for the real failue that you are. you call your self a christian, give us a break you are as two faced as they come. and do not ever call yourself a TEXAN, the dixi chicks had it right. we are ashamed of you for your failure to curb the illegal invasion on our TEXAS border and furthermore for caving in to the dems and just think you will get your shamefull immigration policy passed. just think AMERICA two more years, the healing should start now, but how? the wound that we have suffered as a nation is two more years of failure, this wound is deep and could prove to be fatal to this country. i hope that we in TEXAS will seal our own border and stop this invasion of this beautiful state that we call home. we kicked their asses before without the help of the government and will most likely have to resort to that again to protect our homes and firesides. we have been pushed and abused by these ungreatful people and can take only so much before we take back our country for sure TEXAS. iam hurt that we have been betrayed and now george is in bed with the dems. GOD SAVE TEXAS. SEMPER FI to all, one final word, ammo lots of ammo, lock and load TEXAS.
HELP!I am absolutely outraged and dismayed at the so called "comprehensive immagration policy". You know no wonder the republicans lost. I am a hard righwing conservative and am so let down. It is not our responsibility to take care of "poor mexicans". It is there responsibility to fix their worthless economy and take care of their own people. You know other than the tax cuts what major conservative agenda was pushed at all???? NONE!!!! What is going on here? I am so dishartened that any, if at all conservative acheivements we have reached are all lost now. We are back treading and it isn't fun. Stand up for who put you there Mr President! Realize we don't want any part of amnesty,comprehensive, or any other load of crap sent our way. Protect our boarders!! Stop the illegal human trafficing! Guest worker program=Paid slavery! We are Americans! We speak English! We are not that pathetic country Mexico's Welfare state! Wise up or "08" will be another "06" and we can't bear another blow like that. If you ran as a conservative than be a conservative, because that's what got you there. We don't need any watered down conservative, little democrate types. America is begging to be saved and the Republicans have to do it.
Hello
I have been very displeased with the illegal immigration issue. We must control the flow of illegals coming across the border.
It is a moral issue as well as a matter of law.
Employers please do not hire these lawbreakers!!!
Walt Phillips
I have been very displeased with the illegal immigration issue. We must control the flow of illegals coming across the border.
It is a moral issue as well as a matter of law.
Employers please do not hire these lawbreakers!!!
Walt Phillips
I have said for a long time that the war in Iraq has been a diversion from what is really going on in our Country. The Powers that be could care less about a few American lives I think at last count a little over 2000 we lost over 50000 in Vietnam. While the majority of Americans were worrying about our young men and women in Iraq, President bush and his globalist cronies were busy pushing the North American Union. To the rich and powerful this election was a godsend now they'll get the open borders that they've been craving and the every day American will have lost their country. George Bush has managed to pull the wool over the majority with his dumb country boy from Texas act. He will go down in History as the worst president ever.(As if it makes any differenc). I voted for the B-----d twice, as I was fooled along with Millions of others.
I feel like I'm lving in a REAL nightmare!The illegals haven't gotten Amnesty yet..and they are already abusing Our Laws and Our Constitutional rights, and Our Cultural Structure,which is so different from thiers!Making them automatic citizens,giving them 'carte blanche'to Our Constitution and everything it stands for will be Chaos! They have "civil rights" now, that I as an American citizen don't have!!I expect that if I do something illegal, to be held accountable, not given a "Free Pass".Even illegals that are convicted on felony charges, have civil rights, and because our State law system dictates that after time served,IF they even get convicted. they have to be tried in the Federal Court to be deported.My Grand This Often doesn't happen, and they mainstream right back into our Communities.
My 13 y.o. grand-daughter, was brutally, savagely, held prisoner, beat, raped, sodomized by 2 illegal men. Now a year later, a spanish lawyer that one of them could afford,has gotten the charges dropped to "3rd. degree,Felony g",and it is still on-going inthe Wisconsin Court system. He was smart enough to wear a condom. No DNA, no rape as far as the Law system goes, even though the medical reports verify that everything she claimed happenned DID, he as an illegal, was able to be bonded out and is walking the streets!! Even his patner, who was unlucky enough to have to get a State Attorney appointed ( at whose cost?!)and didn't bother with a condom, so there was DNA on Him, got 1 charge of 2nd degree sexual abuse to a child, -Felony C.,currently in prison, admitted in Court that his cohort DID indeed rape her, ect.,it means nothing legally, without the DNA. Guard your Daughters and wives!! They do not hold the female gendre in any thing close to high, or even moderate degree. If they hadn;t been here illegally, my Grand-daughter's life and mind.and body would not have been smashed and mutilated.This is only one facet, of many, that will have to be addressed with the "reward of amnesty being granted to illegals. They seem to be above the same Laws that we, as American citizens pledge our alliegange to,and expect to be held accountible for.God help us all! Marcie Swanson
My 13 y.o. grand-daughter, was brutally, savagely, held prisoner, beat, raped, sodomized by 2 illegal men. Now a year later, a spanish lawyer that one of them could afford,has gotten the charges dropped to "3rd. degree,Felony g",and it is still on-going inthe Wisconsin Court system. He was smart enough to wear a condom. No DNA, no rape as far as the Law system goes, even though the medical reports verify that everything she claimed happenned DID, he as an illegal, was able to be bonded out and is walking the streets!! Even his patner, who was unlucky enough to have to get a State Attorney appointed ( at whose cost?!)and didn't bother with a condom, so there was DNA on Him, got 1 charge of 2nd degree sexual abuse to a child, -Felony C.,currently in prison, admitted in Court that his cohort DID indeed rape her, ect.,it means nothing legally, without the DNA. Guard your Daughters and wives!! They do not hold the female gendre in any thing close to high, or even moderate degree. If they hadn;t been here illegally, my Grand-daughter's life and mind.and body would not have been smashed and mutilated.This is only one facet, of many, that will have to be addressed with the "reward of amnesty being granted to illegals. They seem to be above the same Laws that we, as American citizens pledge our alliegange to,and expect to be held accountible for.God help us all! Marcie Swanson
As I read some of the blogs posted here, I am reminded why some Republicans took such a hit in this past election.
Calling ourselves "Christians" and dissing all Democrats in such a "Holier than thou" fashion, is just hateful and serves no purpose.
What is gained by spewing such venom ? We loose credibility and we loose our ability to deal with the issue at hand; STOPPING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
I am an Independent and I have been supporting Grassfire's excellent work in their efforts to quell Illegal Immigration from day one. People from both parties, from all walks of life, all ages, genders and religious beliefs, want to stop illegal immigration. Alienating those people does not serve our purpose.
So let's stop with the hate speech already. Aren't you all sick and tired of it ? Instead we can pool our resources and get this job done!
It will be harder than ever now that we have a Democratic Congress and Senate. But first things first, we need to find out which Congressmen/woman or Senator will support our cause or which could be swayed, then go from there.
I, for one, am not going to waste my energy diminishing anyone that doesn't agree with everything I stand for. I feel pretty certain that Christ would do the same.
Take care and fight the good fight,
Mary Martin
Calling ourselves "Christians" and dissing all Democrats in such a "Holier than thou" fashion, is just hateful and serves no purpose.
What is gained by spewing such venom ? We loose credibility and we loose our ability to deal with the issue at hand; STOPPING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
I am an Independent and I have been supporting Grassfire's excellent work in their efforts to quell Illegal Immigration from day one. People from both parties, from all walks of life, all ages, genders and religious beliefs, want to stop illegal immigration. Alienating those people does not serve our purpose.
So let's stop with the hate speech already. Aren't you all sick and tired of it ? Instead we can pool our resources and get this job done!
It will be harder than ever now that we have a Democratic Congress and Senate. But first things first, we need to find out which Congressmen/woman or Senator will support our cause or which could be swayed, then go from there.
I, for one, am not going to waste my energy diminishing anyone that doesn't agree with everything I stand for. I feel pretty certain that Christ would do the same.
Take care and fight the good fight,
Mary Martin
WILL SOMEBODY TELL ME! WHY DON'T WE MARCH!!!!!!!!!!!
The amount of rage over illegal immigration is huge! Why are we not putting this energy into a march on DC that would rival any illegal immigrant march?
Now that the Democrats hold our country's fate as it relates to this issue, we have got to send a clear message. WE DO NOT SUPPORT AMNESTY OR "COMPREHENSIVE...." WE INSIST THAT ENGLISH BE THE UNITED STATES' OFFICIAL LANGUAGE, WE WILL NO LONGER PAY, OUT OF OUR TAX DOLLARS, FOR EDUCATING ILLIGAL IMMIGRANTS, WE WILL NO LONGER PAY FOR THEIR EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS, OR FOR ILLEGAL'S WELFARE, to name a few.
In all of my years (pushing 50) I have never seen this country so fired up! Eighty percent of the country feels the same way, so what is the problem? Why don't we march?
Look, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expect different results. We've written, called, faxed and forwarded (which we should continue to do). The one thing we haven't done, is MARCHED !!!! Let's do it!!
Let's organize through all the "Grassfire Like" websites. 500,000 here, 700,000 there....not to mention all the folks we can pick up through Lou Dobbs' website.
We are very angry, but we must march and we must insist that we hold ourselves to the highest of standards when we do. There would be no point in it, if we acted in a way that would disgrace our country.
Post your thoughts and let me know what you think. Thanks.
The amount of rage over illegal immigration is huge! Why are we not putting this energy into a march on DC that would rival any illegal immigrant march?
Now that the Democrats hold our country's fate as it relates to this issue, we have got to send a clear message. WE DO NOT SUPPORT AMNESTY OR "COMPREHENSIVE...." WE INSIST THAT ENGLISH BE THE UNITED STATES' OFFICIAL LANGUAGE, WE WILL NO LONGER PAY, OUT OF OUR TAX DOLLARS, FOR EDUCATING ILLIGAL IMMIGRANTS, WE WILL NO LONGER PAY FOR THEIR EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS, OR FOR ILLEGAL'S WELFARE, to name a few.
In all of my years (pushing 50) I have never seen this country so fired up! Eighty percent of the country feels the same way, so what is the problem? Why don't we march?
Look, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expect different results. We've written, called, faxed and forwarded (which we should continue to do). The one thing we haven't done, is MARCHED !!!! Let's do it!!
Let's organize through all the "Grassfire Like" websites. 500,000 here, 700,000 there....not to mention all the folks we can pick up through Lou Dobbs' website.
We are very angry, but we must march and we must insist that we hold ourselves to the highest of standards when we do. There would be no point in it, if we acted in a way that would disgrace our country.
Post your thoughts and let me know what you think. Thanks.
I just finished a really nice comment about how I felt our country is "going to hell in a hand basket" with the illegal alien issue,as well as no respect for the wishes of the American people. However, after previewing my comments and trying to fix some spelling errors, I lost EVERYTHING that I had typed up. uuuggghhhh!!!!
Basically, I think that any illegal alien should be rounded up and taken back to their own respective countries, or at least one that is close by. I'm sick and tired of America acting as "the police for the entire world". I think that other countries are tired of us sticking our nose where it doesn't belong too.If other people are fighting in their countries, let them fight. We need to secure our borders and keep the legalized American people safe from anyone who may want to harm us (and we all know that America has made alot of enemies over the years). If other countries are offended because we want to keep our country safe, so be it. Trade should be fair. If other countries don't want to play fairly by the rules, then we will find another country to fill that need, or WOW, here's a concept... We could actually make goods such as clothing, shoes, cars, computers etc... HERE in the United States by legalized Americans just like in the good ol' days. Americans would have jobs,and small business would prosper. It's just an idea of course, but who knows, it may actually work. And if our leaders in Washington don't get there act together, then we can fire them and replace them with someone who will do our bidding. The politicians would turn over a new leaf if they were placed on social security like we are, and actually had to pay for a commercial airplain ticket and sit in 2nd class seating with the rest of us. Humility goes along way, and I don't see anything wrong with people tasting a little bit of it every now and then. It helps to keep people honest in my opinion. No more special interests, or borrowing money from other countries. If we don't have the money to do something then it doesn't get done.. at least not right away. And when are we leagal Americans going to protest in the streets against the illegal alien invasion?? Since when did the Mexican people think that the are entitled to ANY American services? Perhaps if they stayed in their own countries they could help to make it a better place. Just another concept! I hope to God that something changes soon, because us legal Americans are being sold out by our own government. Sickening, isn't it?? Only God can help us now!
Basically, I think that any illegal alien should be rounded up and taken back to their own respective countries, or at least one that is close by. I'm sick and tired of America acting as "the police for the entire world". I think that other countries are tired of us sticking our nose where it doesn't belong too.If other people are fighting in their countries, let them fight. We need to secure our borders and keep the legalized American people safe from anyone who may want to harm us (and we all know that America has made alot of enemies over the years). If other countries are offended because we want to keep our country safe, so be it. Trade should be fair. If other countries don't want to play fairly by the rules, then we will find another country to fill that need, or WOW, here's a concept... We could actually make goods such as clothing, shoes, cars, computers etc... HERE in the United States by legalized Americans just like in the good ol' days. Americans would have jobs,and small business would prosper. It's just an idea of course, but who knows, it may actually work. And if our leaders in Washington don't get there act together, then we can fire them and replace them with someone who will do our bidding. The politicians would turn over a new leaf if they were placed on social security like we are, and actually had to pay for a commercial airplain ticket and sit in 2nd class seating with the rest of us. Humility goes along way, and I don't see anything wrong with people tasting a little bit of it every now and then. It helps to keep people honest in my opinion. No more special interests, or borrowing money from other countries. If we don't have the money to do something then it doesn't get done.. at least not right away. And when are we leagal Americans going to protest in the streets against the illegal alien invasion?? Since when did the Mexican people think that the are entitled to ANY American services? Perhaps if they stayed in their own countries they could help to make it a better place. Just another concept! I hope to God that something changes soon, because us legal Americans are being sold out by our own government. Sickening, isn't it?? Only God can help us now!
The issue of illegal immigration is the most important issue of our time, trumping terrorism, social security deficits, health care concerns, the environment and just about everything else. Why? Because illegal immigration affects each and every one of those issues negatively. The magnitude of the problem is enormous. Will this country be worth fighting for in the future if the entire social, economic, and cultural fabric is ripped to shreds? I'm not sure. But I am sure that the consequences of ignoring the will of the vast majority of Americans will be devastating.
Amazing, you people still use words like Christian and religion on this web site, they do not belong! I am a Christian, and dammed proud of it, however, I do realize the floor in Washington is not the place to bring these things, it divides and seperates! If you have not already seen and heard, He does not have a place on the floor, these are mortal issues, for us to decide, good or bad. He gave us the precious gift of choice, over all matters, we will pay for our indescretions, no government in the world can give us amnesty in God's eyes. DO NOT PUT RELIGION WHERE IT DOES NOT BELONG! WARS MANY OF THEM, HAVE BEEN STARTED FOR THIS ONE REASON. We need to have religion, and this is one nation under God, but God will have nothing to do with these hypocrites in Washington, please, I love all of you Americans and all your thoughts, bring the correct arguement to Washington, one we can win, pick our battles, the ones we can win, when religion gets put in the picture, we lose. God rest the souls of this country, he will feel you.
Ity doesn't matter whether we have a majority of Democrats or Relpublicans in Washington. We need common sence nand honesty from all who serve our country; and we don't have that now with either party.
I don;t know what has happened to you guys but you are not christians when you say things you have said. God says if you are angry forgive if you are upset with someone. God will not forgive you if you don't I was wondering if you disagree with a family member do you call them filthy names and say horrible things. President Bush may not agree with you on immigration but he does care about this country. Maybe if you were kind and not get down right angry you might get what you want on immigration. President Bush does not get told what the american people want all the time because his administration tends to protect him and keeps things from him. Why don;t you try to be nice and you might change his mind. Getting angry gets you no where. Calling people names like you have done to president bush is terrible. If a conservative doesn;t like something they call names and say hurtful things. You ripped into harriet miers and never gave her chance which may of hurt the president and you also did it to his attorney general. If you want to get anywhere on immigration there is the number of the commerce dept and they talked to me about this and about the north american union idea you guys talk about. Maybe you would get some where if you did. To say this president is a failure, sold you out and other things did you ever think you sold him out by calling terrible names and people he cared about. This man asked for support on the war which is going to protect you and all you guys did was walk away after asking him to do it. Sometimes conservatives act like they are the only ones with ideas and no one can have a different idea and if you don't agree with you, you take your toys and go home. Maybe if you go to the white house website and see what he inteds to do on immigration really and educate instead of being a sheepl all the time.It seems you believe other people when they talk about immigration but you never go and see if they are right about what they say about the presidents immigration reform. I talked to the commerece dept and they explained about the north american thing you talk about and they were helpful and gave me the big picture and it is nothing that has been talked about. Some people have agendas of their own and may not be giving you the complete truth because they want it their way. Why don;t you check out this instead of saying terrible things and accusing the president of stuff and saying he is not convervatives. Many evangicals agree with him. They want border control and guest worker program so we can be nice and maybe we can get what we want. Learn to forgive and much will get done. President Bush stance on immigration is not about business he is doing on religious beliefs. Americans allowed this to happen and did nothing or said nothing about it to other people which this has been going on for 30 years and now all of a sudden it is the president bush's fall when you allowed this problem to grow and grow and now the problem is bigger and families who came here were allowed to buy homes, and let the childeren get older and make friends and now this has growen into a major problem and you guys cannot have a rational discussion about anything about this. If you did this and everyone could debate their ideas instead of acting like fools and calling names this country could solve the problem. THis is the americans fault who let it grow and never did anything before. Conservatives always talk about having civil debates on issues but now it is your turn you act like mean people. If we all calm down and let some in the white house know you might get what you want.
George Bush "cares" about us???? You'ver got to be kidding!! Where have you been? Under a rock??? Anyone who would send young men off to war to lose their lives and limbs because of a flat out lie...then refuse to secure our own borders from terrorists and illegal scumbags is the worst piece of shit this country has ever seen!! My God! Impeach this liar and fraud!
Everything is BS!!when it comes to Bush and Amnesty! He's a demorepulican.
Take a short drive into N.C. off of I-95 and you'll get an eye full of what is living in them rusted old trailers.... And when you're diving in on 95 anywhere in the south, check out the vans that are driving full of them.(after it get's dark of corse), They're heading North towards New York/ New Jersey....I wish I could be president....and it wouldn't have to be for long either, cause I'd fire everyone! and have the people start all over.... we need a new gov! FOR THE LEGAL PEOPLE--AND NOT FOR AMNESTY!!
Take a short drive into N.C. off of I-95 and you'll get an eye full of what is living in them rusted old trailers.... And when you're diving in on 95 anywhere in the south, check out the vans that are driving full of them.(after it get's dark of corse), They're heading North towards New York/ New Jersey....I wish I could be president....and it wouldn't have to be for long either, cause I'd fire everyone! and have the people start all over.... we need a new gov! FOR THE LEGAL PEOPLE--AND NOT FOR AMNESTY!!
March on WASHINGTON! That's a good idea!
And we need to not vote republican or democrat, we need to vote AMERICAN!!!!!
We are better then all them horses ass' in Washington. they're nothing with out us., so why aren't we all getting together and voting them all out!
And really shake it up!!!
That can only be GREAT for US.
And BAD for them.... ;)
And we need to not vote republican or democrat, we need to vote AMERICAN!!!!!
We are better then all them horses ass' in Washington. they're nothing with out us., so why aren't we all getting together and voting them all out!
And really shake it up!!!
That can only be GREAT for US.
And BAD for them.... ;)
I am very disapointed with the democrats taking over. I think our country is sold out. I know our Lord and Savior is displeased with what's happening in this country. Wish people would wake up, but I'm afraid it's too late. With the flood of illegals over here getting food stamps, health care, schooling and all the other benefits at our expense it's breaking our government.
I am extremely disappointed with President Bush and the Republican party. They are not listing to the people. I feel we should not only close the borders but we should have shut down immigration right after 9/11.
N. from NJ
P.S. I also feel we need term limits.
N. from NJ
P.S. I also feel we need term limits.
the THE GUNNY: Shut up!! with you and your country self!!! How do you expect others to respect your racial background when you trash other people ethnicity?? And then you talk about shooting them? "oh yes, very compassionate indeed..." (yeah, right)
and to larry-rancho cucamonga:
I can't believe this!! Everyone wants less discrimination but then they start making racist comments...doesn't make sense!
I mean, you want people (basically) think that every hispanic/latino is illegal,...how is that? You don't want to pay them tips for doing work FOR YOU!! "oh that's very Christian (and American)" (maybe that's why they are starting to detest you....don't say they have been hating you because that's not true...)
I mean, if you are going to do that, then expect the illegals to do the same thing....
To everyone else (who criticized Bush or Reps.):
If you think you can do a better job, then why dont YOU run for President ?!
EVERYONE criticizes that man EVERYDAY yet you expect him to do his job (perfectly) like if nobody was bothering him....why dont Y'ALL snap back to reality !! Sypport somebody at least....I mean, yes, both sides have their faults, but aren't they also human....and if you still dont like the way they are running things, then YOU get YOUR bottoms out of your "comfy couches" and do something about it !!
And for the guy talking about religion (specifically Christianity) not having a place in politics.....think that over, buddy because religion has a lot to do with politics...
Where do you think most of our laws come from?
Where do you think morals and values on issues, like abortion and gay marriages/unions, come from?
Where do you think the ideals for the first amendment come from?
Get real...Christianity has plenty to do with the political arena...
If you believe in something, especially something religious, why should that stop at the doors of the Capitol building (or anywhere for that matter) just because it's religious?
To the people who want English to be the official language:
"YEAH, let's be like Germany, who killed millions of innocent people and establish our official language as English!!!"
Come on...are you saying we should put our official language as English just because another country has it as their own....that's a lame reason to back up your decision....why do think many people dislike going to "one official-language" countries....exactly for the reason you just gave....EVERYTHING'S IN ONE LANGUAGE!!!
Aren't we the 'melting-pot' country, where everyone should be able to come here and relate (somehow) to their own culture?
There are many people whose parents were immigrants....why do you think many had hard times...not just because they didn't have money or work...but because they did not have anything to read in their language; they didn't have anything that related to their culture (so many did not feel welcome)....So stop with this neo-Nazi,"We're the Best", Klan thing, alright ?!
any other omments or concerns...
(would you believe that Saddam Hussein, after doing all the horrible things he's done, calls for (and I quote) "All Iraqis -Arabs and Kurds - to forgive reconcile and make up"....NOW he wants them to get together and be a "happy family", when he should have been trying to do that when he was in power!! (I'm telling you, ridiculous...)
and to larry-rancho cucamonga:
I can't believe this!! Everyone wants less discrimination but then they start making racist comments...doesn't make sense!
I mean, you want people (basically) think that every hispanic/latino is illegal,...how is that? You don't want to pay them tips for doing work FOR YOU!! "oh that's very Christian (and American)" (maybe that's why they are starting to detest you....don't say they have been hating you because that's not true...)
I mean, if you are going to do that, then expect the illegals to do the same thing....
To everyone else (who criticized Bush or Reps.):
If you think you can do a better job, then why dont YOU run for President ?!
EVERYONE criticizes that man EVERYDAY yet you expect him to do his job (perfectly) like if nobody was bothering him....why dont Y'ALL snap back to reality !! Sypport somebody at least....I mean, yes, both sides have their faults, but aren't they also human....and if you still dont like the way they are running things, then YOU get YOUR bottoms out of your "comfy couches" and do something about it !!
And for the guy talking about religion (specifically Christianity) not having a place in politics.....think that over, buddy because religion has a lot to do with politics...
Where do you think most of our laws come from?
Where do you think morals and values on issues, like abortion and gay marriages/unions, come from?
Where do you think the ideals for the first amendment come from?
Get real...Christianity has plenty to do with the political arena...
If you believe in something, especially something religious, why should that stop at the doors of the Capitol building (or anywhere for that matter) just because it's religious?
To the people who want English to be the official language:
"YEAH, let's be like Germany, who killed millions of innocent people and establish our official language as English!!!"
Come on...are you saying we should put our official language as English just because another country has it as their own....that's a lame reason to back up your decision....why do think many people dislike going to "one official-language" countries....exactly for the reason you just gave....EVERYTHING'S IN ONE LANGUAGE!!!
Aren't we the 'melting-pot' country, where everyone should be able to come here and relate (somehow) to their own culture?
There are many people whose parents were immigrants....why do you think many had hard times...not just because they didn't have money or work...but because they did not have anything to read in their language; they didn't have anything that related to their culture (so many did not feel welcome)....So stop with this neo-Nazi,"We're the Best", Klan thing, alright ?!
any other omments or concerns...
(would you believe that Saddam Hussein, after doing all the horrible things he's done, calls for (and I quote) "All Iraqis -Arabs and Kurds - to forgive reconcile and make up"....NOW he wants them to get together and be a "happy family", when he should have been trying to do that when he was in power!! (I'm telling you, ridiculous...)
A common language is a unifier. Every country has one. Speaking the native language of a new country shows respect for its citizens and for its culture. Why would anyone resist learning and speaking the common language of a newly adopted country?
Can you imagine what would happen if Americans by the millions invaded Mexico, refused to learn Spanish, and pressured the government to accommodate their language and culture in everyday life?
Resentment, for starters, then the establishment of a separate nation of people within the borders. That's not a sought-after goal.
Celebrate your culture but don't push it on the natives. Assimilate!
Can you imagine what would happen if Americans by the millions invaded Mexico, refused to learn Spanish, and pressured the government to accommodate their language and culture in everyday life?
Resentment, for starters, then the establishment of a separate nation of people within the borders. That's not a sought-after goal.
Celebrate your culture but don't push it on the natives. Assimilate!
As far as I am concerned, President Bush and anyone who is with him on amnesty is derelict in duty. We have immigration laws that ARE NOT being enforced. There should be no debates about it. Enforce the LAW !
As a small group were demonstrating outside a store locally about allowing immigration (read amnesty for illegal aliens), a protester confronted some who said no way when approached & told them they too were immigrants & "they" should go back where they came from.
One of the confronted responded with, "I was born here, my parents were born here, their parents were born here, & their parenst were born here, and so on. I AM a native. I DO belong here. This IS MY country. If I go back anywhere, it will be to the home I own & will defend if you try to push your way in! Get it!" And off he & his party walked.
I wanted to hug him!
One of the confronted responded with, "I was born here, my parents were born here, their parents were born here, & their parenst were born here, and so on. I AM a native. I DO belong here. This IS MY country. If I go back anywhere, it will be to the home I own & will defend if you try to push your way in! Get it!" And off he & his party walked.
I wanted to hug him!
It might be time for those of us that are unhappy about being ignored by our elected officials on issues, such as Amnesty, to realize we are going to have to unite in a way that will give our voices more volume. We are also going to have to become better educated about how our representatives are actually voting on issues of importance to us. I personally do not care who is Democrat or who is Republican. I care about knowing who is for me (supports my opinion) and who is against me (opposes my opinion, or is misrepresenting how they will actually vote) One way we could demand more serious attention might be to join the Independent American Party. I have been brousing their web site, and found they have links to organizations that are monitoring reporting and scoring the votes of our Congressmen and Senators. We can look for ourselves and become more aware of who is who, and make better educated decisions on how to align our votes. It is obvious that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans are listening to our individual voices. They are paying lip service to our petitions, but in the end they are patronizing us to get our vote then ignoring our viewpoints. It may do service to our cause to combine our voices so as to motivate candidates to take our viewpoints serious. As members of the Independant party we are demonstrating that we are not pleased with either party, and that they are going to have to take our vote serious to gain election, because we are no longer going to simply sign a petition, and then forget the issue, or vote the party line, but we are going to pursue the issue with our votes. At some point in the future it may become actually possible to elect candidates of our own, but for the present a strong voting block can make it or break it for some politicians with our elections being as close as they are today. A good third party working with orginizations such as Grassfire that are working to provide information to the voters could be a strong information tool and make all of us better voters. Politicians align with political parties for the power and support they provide. As a large comitted group of voters we can gain some power ofer their future perspective, and votes.
If you really want to know what is wrong with America just read many of the comments above. The real issue in our country is STUPIDITY, LAZINESS, and GULLIBILITY on the part of the voters. We could be using this communication tool to share knowledge, and learn from each other. Instead there is every manner of name calling, and biased view points that can be imagined. This is America, the land of free speech. It is ok for each of us to talk. It would be nice if more would talk with some thought, consideration and a minimum of intellegence. Many of you are repeating the same lies that you have been fed by the party and the media instead of thinking for yourselves, or of your neighbors viewpoint.
It is ok for us to require immigrants coming to this country to speak our language. (When in Rome do as the Romans do.) Otherwise WHY GO TO ROME?? It is also ok for us to want to control immigration, and to want anyone who is ignoring our laws to be returned to their own country. It is ok for us to want to secure our borders against those who would threaten us or try to undermine our values. We have more than ONE-MILLION LEGAL IMMIGRANTS entering our country each year who are unafraid of telling us that they are here, and who they are, who want to be AMERICANS enough to learn our language. Instead of sitting here talking like uneducated fools we could be trying to understand why BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES have failed to concern themselves with this issue, and others, even thought the majority of the citizens who elected them are of the opinion that our country should be SOVERIGN and SECURE. What ever happened to MAJORITY RULE?
If you walk into a room filled with retarded people unexpectantly, and you are of at least average intelligence you may notice those people are 'less blessed'. If you think that you are so smart that there are not those who are looking and listening to you saying 'POOR GUY' then you really are not very intelligent, if you were you would be thinking for your self instead of constantly arguing about the lies we are being fed by the POLITICIANS, and the MEDIA. I am not the most intelligent, but I am willing to learn from those that are more blessed. I am not talking about the 'self-anointed brains. I am talking about people who have been looking for answers that will share their findings and their source with me so I can learn for myself. We just had a very close Senate race in Tennessee. Both candidates claimed to be PRO-LIFE. One of them 'a U.S. Representative', has a record that shows that he has voted PRO-LIFE one time in his last nine votes on the issue. I have enough intelligence to deduce that he probably is lying to me about being PRO-LIFE. How many well meaning, uninformed PRO-LIFE voters do you think took him for his word, and voted for him just because of party?
We, better learn how to become better informed voters and start thinking for ourselves. The majority of the American Voters want pretty much the same thing;
MARRIAGE: Man and Woman
IMMIGRATION: secure borders legal immigrants only,
but we can not prevail on the issues because we are to busy being party loyal, and arguing issues that we do not even know the truth on. Until we forsake that stupidity we can not vote decisively on any issue, and the politicians will continue to ignore us. It is time to stop the IGNORANCE. Start educating ourselves about how our elected officials are really voting and let them know we are not going to be lied to anymore. Both political parties have allowed the illegal immigration to continue. Do you know why they have the same position on that issue? Tell me, but show me facts to support your information. It is obvious the parties have a mutual interest on this issue, and I feel that it is not in our best interest. Tell my what their motive is or help me find out what it is. Can we discuss this problem together? Can we join together as AMERICANS stop beint Democrats or Republicans and correct this problem? If we can not we are doomed to waste out time and our breath.
It is ok for us to require immigrants coming to this country to speak our language. (When in Rome do as the Romans do.) Otherwise WHY GO TO ROME?? It is also ok for us to want to control immigration, and to want anyone who is ignoring our laws to be returned to their own country. It is ok for us to want to secure our borders against those who would threaten us or try to undermine our values. We have more than ONE-MILLION LEGAL IMMIGRANTS entering our country each year who are unafraid of telling us that they are here, and who they are, who want to be AMERICANS enough to learn our language. Instead of sitting here talking like uneducated fools we could be trying to understand why BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES have failed to concern themselves with this issue, and others, even thought the majority of the citizens who elected them are of the opinion that our country should be SOVERIGN and SECURE. What ever happened to MAJORITY RULE?
If you walk into a room filled with retarded people unexpectantly, and you are of at least average intelligence you may notice those people are 'less blessed'. If you think that you are so smart that there are not those who are looking and listening to you saying 'POOR GUY' then you really are not very intelligent, if you were you would be thinking for your self instead of constantly arguing about the lies we are being fed by the POLITICIANS, and the MEDIA. I am not the most intelligent, but I am willing to learn from those that are more blessed. I am not talking about the 'self-anointed brains. I am talking about people who have been looking for answers that will share their findings and their source with me so I can learn for myself. We just had a very close Senate race in Tennessee. Both candidates claimed to be PRO-LIFE. One of them 'a U.S. Representative', has a record that shows that he has voted PRO-LIFE one time in his last nine votes on the issue. I have enough intelligence to deduce that he probably is lying to me about being PRO-LIFE. How many well meaning, uninformed PRO-LIFE voters do you think took him for his word, and voted for him just because of party?
We, better learn how to become better informed voters and start thinking for ourselves. The majority of the American Voters want pretty much the same thing;
MARRIAGE: Man and Woman
IMMIGRATION: secure borders legal immigrants only,
but we can not prevail on the issues because we are to busy being party loyal, and arguing issues that we do not even know the truth on. Until we forsake that stupidity we can not vote decisively on any issue, and the politicians will continue to ignore us. It is time to stop the IGNORANCE. Start educating ourselves about how our elected officials are really voting and let them know we are not going to be lied to anymore. Both political parties have allowed the illegal immigration to continue. Do you know why they have the same position on that issue? Tell me, but show me facts to support your information. It is obvious the parties have a mutual interest on this issue, and I feel that it is not in our best interest. Tell my what their motive is or help me find out what it is. Can we discuss this problem together? Can we join together as AMERICANS stop beint Democrats or Republicans and correct this problem? If we can not we are doomed to waste out time and our breath.
The invasion is on,stop the bullshit marshall law requires citizens to gunup and do the job that are corrupt police force wont do,lets kill thease illigal invaders and corrupt politicians and sort it out later on.
must have hit a nerve with someone young and not well informed. you tell me to shut up with my country ways,no I earned that right by fighting for it and yours as well. so my race plays a part as well, no it does not it is young people like you that need to jump into IRAQ with the kids that are there and pull that bullshit with them. they will kick your ungreatful ass and race has nothing to do with. country AMERICA what don't you get about this country? i never talked about shooting anyone just to be prepared, not only from the hords of illegals but the government as well you need to be educated in what will happen when this amnesty comes about. you will give up your rights as well to these invaders, you must be a lib, i don't care, you could be limped rist, i don't care. one thing is for sure you don't have a clue what is about to happen to this country, nore do you care. so you just go ahead and rip on the old GUNNY, well you have that right because i faught for that right for the both of us. KHE SHAN, 881n,881s,FOXTROT RIDGE,471, CON THIEN, 689, 552, just a few places that i had the delight to visit when i was your age. tuff guy i didn't see you there, hiding in Canada were you? if you were remember this you were granted amnesty from your country for running and dodgeing. 12 of our countrymen die every day in this country by the hands of illegals, mostly from that rat invested mexico. that comes to 4380 americans every year, that does not include the thousands killed on the highways every year by illegals. also hundreds of our children are raped, murdered every year by illegals, drugs abound every year because of that rat hole called maxico. what don't you get about the impact that these invaders get away with and the cost to people like you, you pay taxes? i sure hope so because you will continue to support them as well. i would like to sit and chat some more but the old GUNNY has got to have his oat meal it keeps my old ass in shape also helps purge that meat loaf that i have stored from yesterday. i run 5 miles every day, good for the sole do you have one. i sure hope so. you take care young skull of mush as RUSH calls them. i forgive you for being so misinformed about the greatist country on earth. this country will survive and will continue to send her children to war for ungreatful ones as yourself. the GUNNY sends his best, oh by the way i have a masters degree not only in history but in life, you need to look into getting one. and i meant what i said ammo lots of ammo lock and load. oh by the way my brother is a retired sgt maj USMC and guess what he has his masters in education, not bad for two hicks. good luck with your hate for this country, oh there is roam in mexico, reason 20 million are here illegally, you may fit in. SEMPER FI GOD BLESS THIS COUNTRY The GUNNY
I have been a supporter of this website, and have signed my name to many petitions. After reading NUMEROUS posts, I am totally disappointed at how many Anonymous posts are out there. I am confused at which anonymous post I wish to reply to..Be an adult, give me a name...any name, other than anonymous. Thanks!
I feel let down by you folks. you didn't tell the whole story, and niether did Glen Beck.
The reason those border patrol agents went to jail, is because the covered up the shooting.
acted like it didn't happen.
hid evidenceand so on.
12 good Texans looked at the eveidence and sent them to jail.
I only found out the rest of the story after I rushed to judgement from what Glen Beck said.
I won't do that again I hope. and I won't be signing anything either!
The reason those border patrol agents went to jail, is because the covered up the shooting.
acted like it didn't happen.
hid evidenceand so on.
12 good Texans looked at the eveidence and sent them to jail.
I only found out the rest of the story after I rushed to judgement from what Glen Beck said.
I won't do that again I hope. and I won't be signing anything either!
I fel let down by you folks.
you didn't tell the whole story about the border agents and how they covered up evidence and failed to report that they had shot someone.
important little facts don't you think?
Thats why a jury of their peers found them guilty.
credabilty is everything, and if you lose that, whats left?
the border agents lost theirs, don't you lose yours.
you didn't tell the whole story about the border agents and how they covered up evidence and failed to report that they had shot someone.
important little facts don't you think?
Thats why a jury of their peers found them guilty.
credabilty is everything, and if you lose that, whats left?
the border agents lost theirs, don't you lose yours.
How about having a little faith in the American public? Regardless of how many times you deny it,voters were turned off by the harsh immigration rhetoric spewed by several of those Republicans that lost in the recent election. Immigrants will not destroy America, but the hate many of you have expressed on this forum will.
I'm going to pretend that the vile comments against immigration are truely made in defense of our country and not driven by racist hate and respectfully disagree with those who claim Mexicans refuse to learn English and assimilate. Nothing could be further from the truth. I know this for a fact because I'm one, and I know countless other Mexican and Mexican-Americans, and I've never heard anyone say they don't want to speak the language or be part of the American culture. Speaking English clearly gives you an advantage in this country. To refuse to learn English is self-defeating. I know people, mostly older folks, who don't speak English, but it's not because they don't want to or haven't devoted considerable time trying. Learning a new language is extremely challenging and takes time. And just like the Italians and Irish before us who gradually lost their native tongue, the new wave of immigrants, also will (unfortunately) lose their ability to speak Spanish. Studies have shown that by the time the third generation rolls around, not only is English their primary language, it is often their only language. All I'm asking is for patience. We all assimilate - sometimes it just takes a few years.
After having read all of your statements, I do admit I am very surprised. Sounds like a bunch of KKK members venting their frustration. I am also surprised how well your forum works; you got more trash on here begging for money and selling drugs illegally than any other site. Sure must do wonders for your credibility. Keep on trying, and keep in mind what makes this country the greatest country in the world. Without immigration, there would be no progress. I can guarantee you that we have more white trash sucking on the teats of our social assistance than illegal immigrants. For as long as we continue to reward the lazy by maintaining their behavior through our public welfare, we will continue to have the need for cheap labor. This has historically been provided by immigrants, legal and illegal alike. Stop whining about things that could be and do something more productive, like getting the lazy scum of their asses and back to work, that will eliminate the need for an underpaid workforce. I am sorry to tell you that I have not seen to many illegals begging for handout on the streets, and it was white lazy trash who broke twice into my home. Why not advocate cleaning up our house first before we start in someone elses?
I think America should look at our jails and prisons. The majority of the criminal population in these institutions are of what race?
I think America should look at our jails and prisons. The majority of the criminal population in these institutions are of what race?
I think America should look at our jails and prisons. The majority of the criminal population in these institutions are of what race?
FREE OFFICER STEPHANIE MOHR NOW!
Meet Stephanie Mohr, dangerous and hardened criminal, now serving a ten year prison sentence at the Federal Prison Camp in Alderson, West Virginia, thanks to tenacious federal prosecutors and tough judge.
Stephanie’s crime? Her dog bit a man in the leg.
This was not just any dog. Valk, a German Shepherd, worked for the Prince George’s County Police Department, Maryland. Police Officer Stephanie Mohr was his K-9 partner.
The victim? Ricardo Mendez, an illegal alien from El Salvador, complete with criminal record, was found with an accomplice by police at 1 a.m. atop the roof of a commercial building in the suburb of Takoma Park, Maryland.
Prosecutors were able to convince a jury, that the dog bite wasn’t necessary, thus violating Ricardo’s civil rights. And for that, Stephanie Mohr, age 35, decorated cop, loyal daughter, devoted mother...is spending ten years in the prime of her life in a prison cell, branded a criminal for life.
Everyone reading this must be shaking their heads. Here, in the land of the free, where we cherish a constitution painstakingly designed to protect Americans from injustice, the justice system creates its own injustice.
There’s more to this incredible story.
* Stephanie Mohr wasn’t charged with a crime until five years later, one day before the statute of limitations expired.
* Neither of the two illegals, including the man that was bitten, ever filed a complaint.
* The case took two trials. In the first, eleven jurors voted for acquittal, with one hold-out. But the government went after her again, this time gaining a conviction.
* The main prosecution witness faced criminal charges and testified in exchange for a deal
It happened on September 21, 1995. Stephanie had been a cop for two years. Her short career — serving and protecting the citizens of Prince George’s County, Maryland, — had already been dotted with deeds resulting in 25 letters of commendation and two awards. In one act of heroism, a group of juvenile drug dealers ambushed Stephanie and fired 40 shots in an assassination attempt. She survived, unharmed. (The shooters were charged with attempted murder on a police officer, and received eight years in jail. They were out in 18 months)
Inexperienced as a K-9 handler, Stephanie was riding with a senior officer, Anthony Delozier, when they received a back-up call to the Takoma Park Police Department. Takoma Park cops were on a stake-out after a rash of roof top burglaries in the area. It paid off. Two suspects were found atop a commercial building. K-9 was called to assist, along with the helicopter unit.
Prosecutors would later say these were just two homeless men looking for a place to eat and sleep. Well, of course. Illegal aliens often enjoy dining and sleeping on commercial rooftops. The pattern of rooftop burglaries in the area and their extensive records as criminals was apparently irrelevant.
When they arrived on the scene, with the police helicopter hovering, Officer Delozier conferred with the Takoma Park Sergeant, Dennis Bonn, in the staging area to determine the nature of the call. In cop lingo, he asked, “Is it a bite case?” Translated, he was asking if this was a felony which, if necessary, would justify an apprehension by dog — instead of gun. The two suspects came down the building on the back side, next to an alley. Stephanie, Delozier, Bonn and one other cop waited with guns drawn. They ordered the suspects to freeze, hands up. One suspect appeared jittery, barely raised his hands to waist level while jabbering in Spanish to his cohort. According to Stephanie, Delozier, and the other officer, Mendez made a move like he might break for it. Stephanie released the dog who then bit the man on the leg.
Both suspects were sent to jail, and were later deported from the U.S. Case closed?
In the ensuing five years, and for a decade prior, a number of questionable incidents occurred within the Prince George’s County and Takoma Park police departments alleging rampant abuse by police officers toward minorities. Law suits had been filed against several cops, including those in K-9. Media ran several stories. One of the cops under scrutiny for brutality and facing a number of civil rights charges, was Sergeant Dennis Bonn, the same Takoma Park supervisor who was on the scene of the 1995 apprehension by Stephanie’s dog.
The prosecutors also managed to get support from Takoma Park cop, Keith Largent who opined that the dog bite was not really necessary. Sergeant Bonn contradicted Delozier’s testimony saying the question was asked, “Can the dog have a bite?” long after the suspects came off the building and were in custody.
Armed with Bonn’s testimony, federal prosecutors charged Stephanie Mohr and Anthony Delozier with conspiracy and violating the civil rights of the illegal alien under color of law.
Imagine that, a foreigner with a criminal record breaks the law to enter this country, and he’s automatically awarded civil rights. And it’s the cop who goes to jail.
Also charged, was Takoma Park Officer, Brian Rich, who the government said filed false charges against the men. After a hung jury, the judge dismissed all charges. Rich later became an FBI agent.
Mohr and Delozier were nearly acquitted in the first trial, but for one hold-out on the jury. Normally, a prosecution office will not go through the expense and time to retry a case under such circumstances. Nor would they defy the spirit of double jeopardy protections. But, this “crime” was so detestable, determined prosecutors went after the two of them again, this time with a new approach. After trial number one, they had the advantage of knowing the defense strategy. Weak government witnesses were not called for trial number two, including the lead FBI agent in charge, Marc Savine. For trial number two, prosecutors unearthed a couple of new witnesses — unrelated to the Mendez bite — who would testify that Stephanie Mohr was prejudiced toward minorities, as evidenced by other incidents, post 1995, when her dog apprehended and/or bit minority suspects. They excavated the original illegal alien from a jail cell in El Salvador to come and testify against her. The other illegal alien was brought back from a prison in Texas.
Delozier was acquitted of conspiracy in the second trial. He’s back on the police beat, now a lieutenant. One can only imagine his attitude toward the law.
In August of 2002, Officer Stephanie Mohr was hauled away in handcuffs, her life a shambles. The judge sentenced her to ten years. The government reveled in victory, claiming justice had prevailed. Or did it?
The loser was not just Stephanie Mohr. In a time when our society laments over too many one-parent homes, her son, Adam, age 4, will have to spend his formative years growing up without a mom in the home.
A decorated career cop who would have gone on to a stellar career protecting local citizens from criminal predators, has been excoriated and damaged for life.
Instead of her paying taxes and contributing to our society, she is now relegated to a social dependent, supported by you and me.
Some truly dangerous criminal will remain free to commit crimes against innocent civilians because Stephanie Mohr occupies that prison bed.
Under the proverbial microscope, police officers today are no longer proactive enforcers of the law, but mere reporting agents who are afraid to make one wrong move for fear of Monday morning quarterbacks demanding “justice”. Stephanie Mohr serves as an example why cops don’t dare do police work any more, lest they end up in prison instead of the criminals.
The travesty of justice in Mohr’s case was perpetuated by prosecutors out to pacify an outraged minority community who had been victimized over two decades by abusive officers not held in check by their departments. Stephanie Mohr was the sacrificial lamb, paying the price of many before her. They went after innocent prey, because they could.
I’ve tried to keep an open mind thinking there must be more to the story. Perhaps Stephanie Mohr had been over zealous in her approach toward police work. Perhaps she should have shown more restraint. Maybe the release of the dog wasn’t absolutely necessary. I’ve often heard those grey areas argued by sofa-sitting second-guessers over my career, but none of them can know what it feels like in that moment requiring a split second decision. Even if Stephanie Mohr was completely guilty, she deserved nothing more than a reprimand, a suspension or perhaps, a transfer to another unit. For certain, she deserves to be home with her son, and on the job working with prosecutors, not dodging them. She does not belong in prison.
Stephanie’s lawyers are working on an appeal, saying she had ineffective counsel and other legal issues. But we all know how painfully slow that process goes. It may be another three or four years before those legal issues are resolved. Meanwhile, she wallows as federal inmate number 36547-037, criminal.
Where is the outrage? Where is the brotherhood of police organizations? Where is the voice of 700,000 American cops who stand just as vulnerable to this kind of persecution because they carry a badge. Police officers are the first line of defense in a nation riddled with crime and the fear of terror, yet they stand as prime targets for government officials who occasionally need to grease the squeaky wheel. Cops must stand up and be counted, and let the nation know they are just as entitled to protections from injustice as any American.
The four drug-dealing juveniles who fired forty shots in an attempt to kill Officer Stephanie Mohr, served 18 months in jail. Compare that to Stephanie Mohr’s sentence.
Willie McJones is a career criminal who has spent his life in and out of prison, preying upon the innocent, stealing, robbing and breaking into houses. He has proven to be a dangerous man. He was arrested for killing a cohort during a drug deal. McJones served five years of a seven year manslaughter sentence. Compare that to Stephanie Mohr’s sentence.
There are thousands of real criminals — perhaps millions — just like McJones, on the streets preying upon the innocent, ravaging homes and businesses, stealing assaulting, pushing narcotics to the young, habitually breaking laws. They don’t get half of Stephanie’s punishment. Many are known criminals — parasites — who the justice system has protected with an array of constitutional rights, allowing them to perpetuate their criminal behavior right under out noses. Stephanie Mohr has been a law abiding, tax paying, contributing citizen, yet she wallows in a prison cell in lieu of real criminals, a prized trophy for prosecutors hell-bent on satisfying vocal minorities.
The United States justice system cages 2.1 million human beings at any given time, by far the largest prison inmate population, per capita, of any nation in the world. If Stephanie Mohr serves as an example of success in fighting crime, then it’s time we start taking a closer look at the whole system. After all, this is the land of the free. Or...is it?
Winning was everything. But mistakes are made, as evidenced by the number of releases from death row in America over the last several years, innocent inmates who have suffered horribly from a justice system that hinged their cases upon mistaken eye witness identification or grubby snitches pandering for a deal.
What greater motive to lie, than to stay out of jail? Yet, the system validates such deals because it promotes successful verdicts within the arena of legal combat. That’s all that really matters. Winning.
That’s what happened to Stephanie Mohr. Mother. Police officer. Citizen. Victim. Dennis Bonn cut a deal, and he gained liberty in exchange for wanted testimony.
It can happen to anyone. It can happen to me and to you, so long as the politics of the moment serve the cause. It actually frightens me to write this article and see it published. Maybe they’ll come after me next. How sad, we must fear our own government, while we commit 150,000 troops to free the people of another country 10,000 miles away.
Police officers are our first line of protection. A bad cop here and there must surely be dismissed and even prosecuted. But...for a dog bite? On an illegal alien dope-dealing thief? Ten years of a human being’s life, wasted?
This is abominable.
THE SAME JUDGE (DEBORAH CHASANOV) SENTENCED HER TO 10 YEARS OVER A DOG BITE.
SAME JUDGE IN 2002 SENTENCED OVADA WELCH TO 5 YEARS FOR KILLING ON DUTY US PARK POLICE OFFICER IN A DUI
WHERE IS THE JUSTICE
PLEASE CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVES
Meet Stephanie Mohr, dangerous and hardened criminal, now serving a ten year prison sentence at the Federal Prison Camp in Alderson, West Virginia, thanks to tenacious federal prosecutors and tough judge.
Stephanie’s crime? Her dog bit a man in the leg.
This was not just any dog. Valk, a German Shepherd, worked for the Prince George’s County Police Department, Maryland. Police Officer Stephanie Mohr was his K-9 partner.
The victim? Ricardo Mendez, an illegal alien from El Salvador, complete with criminal record, was found with an accomplice by police at 1 a.m. atop the roof of a commercial building in the suburb of Takoma Park, Maryland.
Prosecutors were able to convince a jury, that the dog bite wasn’t necessary, thus violating Ricardo’s civil rights. And for that, Stephanie Mohr, age 35, decorated cop, loyal daughter, devoted mother...is spending ten years in the prime of her life in a prison cell, branded a criminal for life.
Everyone reading this must be shaking their heads. Here, in the land of the free, where we cherish a constitution painstakingly designed to protect Americans from injustice, the justice system creates its own injustice.
There’s more to this incredible story.
* Stephanie Mohr wasn’t charged with a crime until five years later, one day before the statute of limitations expired.
* Neither of the two illegals, including the man that was bitten, ever filed a complaint.
* The case took two trials. In the first, eleven jurors voted for acquittal, with one hold-out. But the government went after her again, this time gaining a conviction.
* The main prosecution witness faced criminal charges and testified in exchange for a deal
It happened on September 21, 1995. Stephanie had been a cop for two years. Her short career — serving and protecting the citizens of Prince George’s County, Maryland, — had already been dotted with deeds resulting in 25 letters of commendation and two awards. In one act of heroism, a group of juvenile drug dealers ambushed Stephanie and fired 40 shots in an assassination attempt. She survived, unharmed. (The shooters were charged with attempted murder on a police officer, and received eight years in jail. They were out in 18 months)
Inexperienced as a K-9 handler, Stephanie was riding with a senior officer, Anthony Delozier, when they received a back-up call to the Takoma Park Police Department. Takoma Park cops were on a stake-out after a rash of roof top burglaries in the area. It paid off. Two suspects were found atop a commercial building. K-9 was called to assist, along with the helicopter unit.
Prosecutors would later say these were just two homeless men looking for a place to eat and sleep. Well, of course. Illegal aliens often enjoy dining and sleeping on commercial rooftops. The pattern of rooftop burglaries in the area and their extensive records as criminals was apparently irrelevant.
When they arrived on the scene, with the police helicopter hovering, Officer Delozier conferred with the Takoma Park Sergeant, Dennis Bonn, in the staging area to determine the nature of the call. In cop lingo, he asked, “Is it a bite case?” Translated, he was asking if this was a felony which, if necessary, would justify an apprehension by dog — instead of gun. The two suspects came down the building on the back side, next to an alley. Stephanie, Delozier, Bonn and one other cop waited with guns drawn. They ordered the suspects to freeze, hands up. One suspect appeared jittery, barely raised his hands to waist level while jabbering in Spanish to his cohort. According to Stephanie, Delozier, and the other officer, Mendez made a move like he might break for it. Stephanie released the dog who then bit the man on the leg.
Both suspects were sent to jail, and were later deported from the U.S. Case closed?
In the ensuing five years, and for a decade prior, a number of questionable incidents occurred within the Prince George’s County and Takoma Park police departments alleging rampant abuse by police officers toward minorities. Law suits had been filed against several cops, including those in K-9. Media ran several stories. One of the cops under scrutiny for brutality and facing a number of civil rights charges, was Sergeant Dennis Bonn, the same Takoma Park supervisor who was on the scene of the 1995 apprehension by Stephanie’s dog.
The prosecutors also managed to get support from Takoma Park cop, Keith Largent who opined that the dog bite was not really necessary. Sergeant Bonn contradicted Delozier’s testimony saying the question was asked, “Can the dog have a bite?” long after the suspects came off the building and were in custody.
Armed with Bonn’s testimony, federal prosecutors charged Stephanie Mohr and Anthony Delozier with conspiracy and violating the civil rights of the illegal alien under color of law.
Imagine that, a foreigner with a criminal record breaks the law to enter this country, and he’s automatically awarded civil rights. And it’s the cop who goes to jail.
Also charged, was Takoma Park Officer, Brian Rich, who the government said filed false charges against the men. After a hung jury, the judge dismissed all charges. Rich later became an FBI agent.
Mohr and Delozier were nearly acquitted in the first trial, but for one hold-out on the jury. Normally, a prosecution office will not go through the expense and time to retry a case under such circumstances. Nor would they defy the spirit of double jeopardy protections. But, this “crime” was so detestable, determined prosecutors went after the two of them again, this time with a new approach. After trial number one, they had the advantage of knowing the defense strategy. Weak government witnesses were not called for trial number two, including the lead FBI agent in charge, Marc Savine. For trial number two, prosecutors unearthed a couple of new witnesses — unrelated to the Mendez bite — who would testify that Stephanie Mohr was prejudiced toward minorities, as evidenced by other incidents, post 1995, when her dog apprehended and/or bit minority suspects. They excavated the original illegal alien from a jail cell in El Salvador to come and testify against her. The other illegal alien was brought back from a prison in Texas.
Delozier was acquitted of conspiracy in the second trial. He’s back on the police beat, now a lieutenant. One can only imagine his attitude toward the law.
In August of 2002, Officer Stephanie Mohr was hauled away in handcuffs, her life a shambles. The judge sentenced her to ten years. The government reveled in victory, claiming justice had prevailed. Or did it?
The loser was not just Stephanie Mohr. In a time when our society laments over too many one-parent homes, her son, Adam, age 4, will have to spend his formative years growing up without a mom in the home.
A decorated career cop who would have gone on to a stellar career protecting local citizens from criminal predators, has been excoriated and damaged for life.
Instead of her paying taxes and contributing to our society, she is now relegated to a social dependent, supported by you and me.
Some truly dangerous criminal will remain free to commit crimes against innocent civilians because Stephanie Mohr occupies that prison bed.
Under the proverbial microscope, police officers today are no longer proactive enforcers of the law, but mere reporting agents who are afraid to make one wrong move for fear of Monday morning quarterbacks demanding “justice”. Stephanie Mohr serves as an example why cops don’t dare do police work any more, lest they end up in prison instead of the criminals.
The travesty of justice in Mohr’s case was perpetuated by prosecutors out to pacify an outraged minority community who had been victimized over two decades by abusive officers not held in check by their departments. Stephanie Mohr was the sacrificial lamb, paying the price of many before her. They went after innocent prey, because they could.
I’ve tried to keep an open mind thinking there must be more to the story. Perhaps Stephanie Mohr had been over zealous in her approach toward police work. Perhaps she should have shown more restraint. Maybe the release of the dog wasn’t absolutely necessary. I’ve often heard those grey areas argued by sofa-sitting second-guessers over my career, but none of them can know what it feels like in that moment requiring a split second decision. Even if Stephanie Mohr was completely guilty, she deserved nothing more than a reprimand, a suspension or perhaps, a transfer to another unit. For certain, she deserves to be home with her son, and on the job working with prosecutors, not dodging them. She does not belong in prison.
Stephanie’s lawyers are working on an appeal, saying she had ineffective counsel and other legal issues. But we all know how painfully slow that process goes. It may be another three or four years before those legal issues are resolved. Meanwhile, she wallows as federal inmate number 36547-037, criminal.
Where is the outrage? Where is the brotherhood of police organizations? Where is the voice of 700,000 American cops who stand just as vulnerable to this kind of persecution because they carry a badge. Police officers are the first line of defense in a nation riddled with crime and the fear of terror, yet they stand as prime targets for government officials who occasionally need to grease the squeaky wheel. Cops must stand up and be counted, and let the nation know they are just as entitled to protections from injustice as any American.
The four drug-dealing juveniles who fired forty shots in an attempt to kill Officer Stephanie Mohr, served 18 months in jail. Compare that to Stephanie Mohr’s sentence.
Willie McJones is a career criminal who has spent his life in and out of prison, preying upon the innocent, stealing, robbing and breaking into houses. He has proven to be a dangerous man. He was arrested for killing a cohort during a drug deal. McJones served five years of a seven year manslaughter sentence. Compare that to Stephanie Mohr’s sentence.
There are thousands of real criminals — perhaps millions — just like McJones, on the streets preying upon the innocent, ravaging homes and businesses, stealing assaulting, pushing narcotics to the young, habitually breaking laws. They don’t get half of Stephanie’s punishment. Many are known criminals — parasites — who the justice system has protected with an array of constitutional rights, allowing them to perpetuate their criminal behavior right under out noses. Stephanie Mohr has been a law abiding, tax paying, contributing citizen, yet she wallows in a prison cell in lieu of real criminals, a prized trophy for prosecutors hell-bent on satisfying vocal minorities.
The United States justice system cages 2.1 million human beings at any given time, by far the largest prison inmate population, per capita, of any nation in the world. If Stephanie Mohr serves as an example of success in fighting crime, then it’s time we start taking a closer look at the whole system. After all, this is the land of the free. Or...is it?
Winning was everything. But mistakes are made, as evidenced by the number of releases from death row in America over the last several years, innocent inmates who have suffered horribly from a justice system that hinged their cases upon mistaken eye witness identification or grubby snitches pandering for a deal.
What greater motive to lie, than to stay out of jail? Yet, the system validates such deals because it promotes successful verdicts within the arena of legal combat. That’s all that really matters. Winning.
That’s what happened to Stephanie Mohr. Mother. Police officer. Citizen. Victim. Dennis Bonn cut a deal, and he gained liberty in exchange for wanted testimony.
It can happen to anyone. It can happen to me and to you, so long as the politics of the moment serve the cause. It actually frightens me to write this article and see it published. Maybe they’ll come after me next. How sad, we must fear our own government, while we commit 150,000 troops to free the people of another country 10,000 miles away.
Police officers are our first line of protection. A bad cop here and there must surely be dismissed and even prosecuted. But...for a dog bite? On an illegal alien dope-dealing thief? Ten years of a human being’s life, wasted?
This is abominable.
THE SAME JUDGE (DEBORAH CHASANOV) SENTENCED HER TO 10 YEARS OVER A DOG BITE.
SAME JUDGE IN 2002 SENTENCED OVADA WELCH TO 5 YEARS FOR KILLING ON DUTY US PARK POLICE OFFICER IN A DUI
WHERE IS THE JUSTICE
PLEASE CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVES
FREE OFFICER STEPHMeet Stephanie Mohr, dangerous and hardened criminal, now serving a ten year prison sentence at the Federal Prison Camp in Alderson, West Virginia, thanks to tenacious federal prosecutors and tough judge.
Stephanie’s crime? Her dog bit a man in the leg.
This was not just any dog. Valk, a German Shepherd, worked for the Prince George’s County Police Department, Maryland. Police Officer Stephanie Mohr was his K-9 partner.
The victim? Ricardo Mendez, an illegal alien from El Salvador, complete with criminal record, was found with an accomplice by police at 1 a.m. atop the roof of a commercial building in the suburb of Takoma Park, Maryland.
Prosecutors were able to convince a jury, that the dog bite wasn’t necessary, thus violating Ricardo’s civil rights. And for that, Stephanie Mohr, age 35, decorated cop, loyal daughter, devoted mother...is spending ten years in the prime of her life in a prison cell, branded a criminal for life.
Everyone reading this must be shaking their heads. Here, in the land of the free, where we cherish a constitution painstakingly designed to protect Americans from injustice, the justice system creates its own injustice.
There’s more to this incredible story.
* Stephanie Mohr wasn’t charged with a crime until five years later, one day before the statute of limitations expired.
* Neither of the two illegals, including the man that was bitten, ever filed a complaint.
* The case took two trials. In the first, eleven jurors voted for acquittal, with one hold-out. But the government went after her again, this time gaining a conviction.
* The main prosecution witness faced criminal charges and testified in exchange for a deal
It happened on September 21, 1995. Stephanie had been a cop for two years. Her short career — serving and protecting the citizens of Prince George’s County, Maryland, — had already been dotted with deeds resulting in 25 letters of commendation and two awards. In one act of heroism, a group of juvenile drug dealers ambushed Stephanie and fired 40 shots in an assassination attempt. She survived, unharmed. (The shooters were charged with attempted murder on a police officer, and received eight years in jail. They were out in 18 months)
Inexperienced as a K-9 handler, Stephanie was riding with a senior officer, Anthony Delozier, when they received a back-up call to the Takoma Park Police Department. Takoma Park cops were on a stake-out after a rash of roof top burglaries in the area. It paid off. Two suspects were found atop a commercial building. K-9 was called to assist, along with the helicopter unit.
Prosecutors would later say these were just two homeless men looking for a place to eat and sleep. Well, of course. Illegal aliens often enjoy dining and sleeping on commercial rooftops. The pattern of rooftop burglaries in the area and their extensive records as criminals was apparently irrelevant.
When they arrived on the scene, with the police helicopter hovering, Officer Delozier conferred with the Takoma Park Sergeant, Dennis Bonn, in the staging area to determine the nature of the call. In cop lingo, he asked, “Is it a bite case?” Translated, he was asking if this was a felony which, if necessary, would justify an apprehension by dog — instead of gun. The two suspects came down the building on the back side, next to an alley. Stephanie, Delozier, Bonn and one other cop waited with guns drawn. They ordered the suspects to freeze, hands up. One suspect appeared jittery, barely raised his hands to waist level while jabbering in Spanish to his cohort. According to Stephanie, Delozier, and the other officer, Mendez made a move like he might break for it. Stephanie released the dog who then bit the man on the leg.
Both suspects were sent to jail, and were later deported from the U.S. Case closed?
In the ensuing five years, and for a decade prior, a number of questionable incidents occurred within the Prince George’s County and Takoma Park police departments alleging rampant abuse by police officers toward minorities. Law suits had been filed against several cops, including those in K-9. Media ran several stories. One of the cops under scrutiny for brutality and facing a number of civil rights charges, was Sergeant Dennis Bonn, the same Takoma Park supervisor who was on the scene of the 1995 apprehension by Stephanie’s dog.
The prosecutors also managed to get support from Takoma Park cop, Keith Largent who opined that the dog bite was not really necessary. Sergeant Bonn contradicted Delozier’s testimony saying the question was asked, “Can the dog have a bite?” long after the suspects came off the building and were in custody.
Armed with Bonn’s testimony, federal prosecutors charged Stephanie Mohr and Anthony Delozier with conspiracy and violating the civil rights of the illegal alien under color of law.
Imagine that, a foreigner with a criminal record breaks the law to enter this country, and he’s automatically awarded civil rights. And it’s the cop who goes to jail.
Also charged, was Takoma Park Officer, Brian Rich, who the government said filed false charges against the men. After a hung jury, the judge dismissed all charges. Rich later became an FBI agent.
Mohr and Delozier were nearly acquitted in the first trial, but for one hold-out on the jury. Normally, a prosecution office will not go through the expense and time to retry a case under such circumstances. Nor would they defy the spirit of double jeopardy protections. But, this “crime” was so detestable, determined prosecutors went after the two of them again, this time with a new approach. After trial number one, they had the advantage of knowing the defense strategy. Weak government witnesses were not called for trial number two, including the lead FBI agent in charge, Marc Savine. For trial number two, prosecutors unearthed a couple of new witnesses — unrelated to the Mendez bite — who would testify that Stephanie Mohr was prejudiced toward minorities, as evidenced by other incidents, post 1995, when her dog apprehended and/or bit minority suspects. They excavated the original illegal alien from a jail cell in El Salvador to come and testify against her. The other illegal alien was brought back from a prison in Texas.
Delozier was acquitted of conspiracy in the second trial. He’s back on the police beat, now a lieutenant. One can only imagine his attitude toward the law.
In August of 2002, Officer Stephanie Mohr was hauled away in handcuffs, her life a shambles. The judge sentenced her to ten years. The government reveled in victory, claiming justice had prevailed. Or did it?
The loser was not just Stephanie Mohr. In a time when our society laments over too many one-parent homes, her son, Adam, age 4, will have to spend his formative years growing up without a mom in the home.
A decorated career cop who would have gone on to a stellar career protecting local citizens from criminal predators, has been excoriated and damaged for life.
Instead of her paying taxes and contributing to our society, she is now relegated to a social dependent, supported by you and me.
Some truly dangerous criminal will remain free to commit crimes against innocent civilians because Stephanie Mohr occupies that prison bed.
Under the proverbial microscope, police officers today are no longer proactive enforcers of the law, but mere reporting agents who are afraid to make one wrong move for fear of Monday morning quarterbacks demanding “justice”. Stephanie Mohr serves as an example why cops don’t dare do police work any more, lest they end up in prison instead of the criminals.
The travesty of justice in Mohr’s case was perpetuated by prosecutors out to pacify an outraged minority community who had been victimized over two decades by abusive officers not held in check by their departments. Stephanie Mohr was the sacrificial lamb, paying the price of many before her. They went after innocent prey, because they could.
I’ve tried to keep an open mind thinking there must be more to the story. Perhaps Stephanie Mohr had been over zealous in her approach toward police work. Perhaps she should have shown more restraint. Maybe the release of the dog wasn’t absolutely necessary. I’ve often heard those grey areas argued by sofa-sitting second-guessers over my career, but none of them can know what it feels like in that moment requiring a split second decision. Even if Stephanie Mohr was completely guilty, she deserved nothing more than a reprimand, a suspension or perhaps, a transfer to another unit. For certain, she deserves to be home with her son, and on the job working with prosecutors, not dodging them. She does not belong in prison.
Stephanie’s lawyers are working on an appeal, saying she had ineffective counsel and other legal issues. But we all know how painfully slow that process goes. It may be another three or four years before those legal issues are resolved. Meanwhile, she wallows as federal inmate number 36547-037, criminal.
Where is the outrage? Where is the brotherhood of police organizations? Where is the voice of 700,000 American cops who stand just as vulnerable to this kind of persecution because they carry a badge. Police officers are the first line of defense in a nation riddled with crime and the fear of terror, yet they stand as prime targets for government officials who occasionally need to grease the squeaky wheel. Cops must stand up and be counted, and let the nation know they are just as entitled to protections from injustice as any American.
The four drug-dealing juveniles who fired forty shots in an attempt to kill Officer Stephanie Mohr, served 18 months in jail. Compare that to Stephanie Mohr’s sentence.
Willie McJones is a career criminal who has spent his life in and out of prison, preying upon the innocent, stealing, robbing and breaking into houses. He has proven to be a dangerous man. He was arrested for killing a cohort during a drug deal. McJones served five years of a seven year manslaughter sentence. Compare that to Stephanie Mohr’s sentence.
There are thousands of real criminals — perhaps millions — just like McJones, on the streets preying upon the innocent, ravaging homes and businesses, stealing assaulting, pushing narcotics to the young, habitually breaking laws. They don’t get half of Stephanie’s punishment. Many are known criminals — parasites — who the justice system has protected with an array of constitutional rights, allowing them to perpetuate their criminal behavior right under out noses. Stephanie Mohr has been a law abiding, tax paying, contributing citizen, yet she wallows in a prison cell in lieu of real criminals, a prized trophy for prosecutors hell-bent on satisfying vocal minorities.
The United States justice system cages 2.1 million human beings at any given time, by far the largest prison inmate population, per capita, of any nation in the world. If Stephanie Mohr serves as an example of success in fighting crime, then it’s time we start taking a closer look at the whole system. After all, this is the land of the free. Or...is it?
Winning was everything. But mistakes are made, as evidenced by the number of releases from death row in America over the last several years, innocent inmates who have suffered horribly from a justice system that hinged their cases upon mistaken eye witness identification or grubby snitches pandering for a deal.
What greater motive to lie, than to stay out of jail? Yet, the system validates such deals because it promotes successful verdicts within the arena of legal combat. That’s all that really matters. Winning.
That’s what happened to Stephanie Mohr. Mother. Police officer. Citizen. Victim. Dennis Bonn cut a deal, and he gained liberty in exchange for wanted testimony.
It can happen to anyone. It can happen to me and to you, so long as the politics of the moment serve the cause. It actually frightens me to write this article and see it published. Maybe they’ll come after me next. How sad, we must fear our own government, while we commit 150,000 troops to free the people of another country 10,000 miles away.
Police officers are our first line of protection. A bad cop here and there must surely be dismissed and even prosecuted. But...for a dog bite? On an illegal alien dope-dealing thief? Ten years of a human being’s life, wasted?
This is abominable.
Stephanie’s crime? Her dog bit a man in the leg.
This was not just any dog. Valk, a German Shepherd, worked for the Prince George’s County Police Department, Maryland. Police Officer Stephanie Mohr was his K-9 partner.
The victim? Ricardo Mendez, an illegal alien from El Salvador, complete with criminal record, was found with an accomplice by police at 1 a.m. atop the roof of a commercial building in the suburb of Takoma Park, Maryland.
Prosecutors were able to convince a jury, that the dog bite wasn’t necessary, thus violating Ricardo’s civil rights. And for that, Stephanie Mohr, age 35, decorated cop, loyal daughter, devoted mother...is spending ten years in the prime of her life in a prison cell, branded a criminal for life.
Everyone reading this must be shaking their heads. Here, in the land of the free, where we cherish a constitution painstakingly designed to protect Americans from injustice, the justice system creates its own injustice.
There’s more to this incredible story.
* Stephanie Mohr wasn’t charged with a crime until five years later, one day before the statute of limitations expired.
* Neither of the two illegals, including the man that was bitten, ever filed a complaint.
* The case took two trials. In the first, eleven jurors voted for acquittal, with one hold-out. But the government went after her again, this time gaining a conviction.
* The main prosecution witness faced criminal charges and testified in exchange for a deal
It happened on September 21, 1995. Stephanie had been a cop for two years. Her short career — serving and protecting the citizens of Prince George’s County, Maryland, — had already been dotted with deeds resulting in 25 letters of commendation and two awards. In one act of heroism, a group of juvenile drug dealers ambushed Stephanie and fired 40 shots in an assassination attempt. She survived, unharmed. (The shooters were charged with attempted murder on a police officer, and received eight years in jail. They were out in 18 months)
Inexperienced as a K-9 handler, Stephanie was riding with a senior officer, Anthony Delozier, when they received a back-up call to the Takoma Park Police Department. Takoma Park cops were on a stake-out after a rash of roof top burglaries in the area. It paid off. Two suspects were found atop a commercial building. K-9 was called to assist, along with the helicopter unit.
Prosecutors would later say these were just two homeless men looking for a place to eat and sleep. Well, of course. Illegal aliens often enjoy dining and sleeping on commercial rooftops. The pattern of rooftop burglaries in the area and their extensive records as criminals was apparently irrelevant.
When they arrived on the scene, with the police helicopter hovering, Officer Delozier conferred with the Takoma Park Sergeant, Dennis Bonn, in the staging area to determine the nature of the call. In cop lingo, he asked, “Is it a bite case?” Translated, he was asking if this was a felony which, if necessary, would justify an apprehension by dog — instead of gun. The two suspects came down the building on the back side, next to an alley. Stephanie, Delozier, Bonn and one other cop waited with guns drawn. They ordered the suspects to freeze, hands up. One suspect appeared jittery, barely raised his hands to waist level while jabbering in Spanish to his cohort. According to Stephanie, Delozier, and the other officer, Mendez made a move like he might break for it. Stephanie released the dog who then bit the man on the leg.
Both suspects were sent to jail, and were later deported from the U.S. Case closed?
In the ensuing five years, and for a decade prior, a number of questionable incidents occurred within the Prince George’s County and Takoma Park police departments alleging rampant abuse by police officers toward minorities. Law suits had been filed against several cops, including those in K-9. Media ran several stories. One of the cops under scrutiny for brutality and facing a number of civil rights charges, was Sergeant Dennis Bonn, the same Takoma Park supervisor who was on the scene of the 1995 apprehension by Stephanie’s dog.
The prosecutors also managed to get support from Takoma Park cop, Keith Largent who opined that the dog bite was not really necessary. Sergeant Bonn contradicted Delozier’s testimony saying the question was asked, “Can the dog have a bite?” long after the suspects came off the building and were in custody.
Armed with Bonn’s testimony, federal prosecutors charged Stephanie Mohr and Anthony Delozier with conspiracy and violating the civil rights of the illegal alien under color of law.
Imagine that, a foreigner with a criminal record breaks the law to enter this country, and he’s automatically awarded civil rights. And it’s the cop who goes to jail.
Also charged, was Takoma Park Officer, Brian Rich, who the government said filed false charges against the men. After a hung jury, the judge dismissed all charges. Rich later became an FBI agent.
Mohr and Delozier were nearly acquitted in the first trial, but for one hold-out on the jury. Normally, a prosecution office will not go through the expense and time to retry a case under such circumstances. Nor would they defy the spirit of double jeopardy protections. But, this “crime” was so detestable, determined prosecutors went after the two of them again, this time with a new approach. After trial number one, they had the advantage of knowing the defense strategy. Weak government witnesses were not called for trial number two, including the lead FBI agent in charge, Marc Savine. For trial number two, prosecutors unearthed a couple of new witnesses — unrelated to the Mendez bite — who would testify that Stephanie Mohr was prejudiced toward minorities, as evidenced by other incidents, post 1995, when her dog apprehended and/or bit minority suspects. They excavated the original illegal alien from a jail cell in El Salvador to come and testify against her. The other illegal alien was brought back from a prison in Texas.
Delozier was acquitted of conspiracy in the second trial. He’s back on the police beat, now a lieutenant. One can only imagine his attitude toward the law.
In August of 2002, Officer Stephanie Mohr was hauled away in handcuffs, her life a shambles. The judge sentenced her to ten years. The government reveled in victory, claiming justice had prevailed. Or did it?
The loser was not just Stephanie Mohr. In a time when our society laments over too many one-parent homes, her son, Adam, age 4, will have to spend his formative years growing up without a mom in the home.
A decorated career cop who would have gone on to a stellar career protecting local citizens from criminal predators, has been excoriated and damaged for life.
Instead of her paying taxes and contributing to our society, she is now relegated to a social dependent, supported by you and me.
Some truly dangerous criminal will remain free to commit crimes against innocent civilians because Stephanie Mohr occupies that prison bed.
Under the proverbial microscope, police officers today are no longer proactive enforcers of the law, but mere reporting agents who are afraid to make one wrong move for fear of Monday morning quarterbacks demanding “justice”. Stephanie Mohr serves as an example why cops don’t dare do police work any more, lest they end up in prison instead of the criminals.
The travesty of justice in Mohr’s case was perpetuated by prosecutors out to pacify an outraged minority community who had been victimized over two decades by abusive officers not held in check by their departments. Stephanie Mohr was the sacrificial lamb, paying the price of many before her. They went after innocent prey, because they could.
I’ve tried to keep an open mind thinking there must be more to the story. Perhaps Stephanie Mohr had been over zealous in her approach toward police work. Perhaps she should have shown more restraint. Maybe the release of the dog wasn’t absolutely necessary. I’ve often heard those grey areas argued by sofa-sitting second-guessers over my career, but none of them can know what it feels like in that moment requiring a split second decision. Even if Stephanie Mohr was completely guilty, she deserved nothing more than a reprimand, a suspension or perhaps, a transfer to another unit. For certain, she deserves to be home with her son, and on the job working with prosecutors, not dodging them. She does not belong in prison.
Stephanie’s lawyers are working on an appeal, saying she had ineffective counsel and other legal issues. But we all know how painfully slow that process goes. It may be another three or four years before those legal issues are resolved. Meanwhile, she wallows as federal inmate number 36547-037, criminal.
Where is the outrage? Where is the brotherhood of police organizations? Where is the voice of 700,000 American cops who stand just as vulnerable to this kind of persecution because they carry a badge. Police officers are the first line of defense in a nation riddled with crime and the fear of terror, yet they stand as prime targets for government officials who occasionally need to grease the squeaky wheel. Cops must stand up and be counted, and let the nation know they are just as entitled to protections from injustice as any American.
The four drug-dealing juveniles who fired forty shots in an attempt to kill Officer Stephanie Mohr, served 18 months in jail. Compare that to Stephanie Mohr’s sentence.
Willie McJones is a career criminal who has spent his life in and out of prison, preying upon the innocent, stealing, robbing and breaking into houses. He has proven to be a dangerous man. He was arrested for killing a cohort during a drug deal. McJones served five years of a seven year manslaughter sentence. Compare that to Stephanie Mohr’s sentence.
There are thousands of real criminals — perhaps millions — just like McJones, on the streets preying upon the innocent, ravaging homes and businesses, stealing assaulting, pushing narcotics to the young, habitually breaking laws. They don’t get half of Stephanie’s punishment. Many are known criminals — parasites — who the justice system has protected with an array of constitutional rights, allowing them to perpetuate their criminal behavior right under out noses. Stephanie Mohr has been a law abiding, tax paying, contributing citizen, yet she wallows in a prison cell in lieu of real criminals, a prized trophy for prosecutors hell-bent on satisfying vocal minorities.
The United States justice system cages 2.1 million human beings at any given time, by far the largest prison inmate population, per capita, of any nation in the world. If Stephanie Mohr serves as an example of success in fighting crime, then it’s time we start taking a closer look at the whole system. After all, this is the land of the free. Or...is it?
Winning was everything. But mistakes are made, as evidenced by the number of releases from death row in America over the last several years, innocent inmates who have suffered horribly from a justice system that hinged their cases upon mistaken eye witness identification or grubby snitches pandering for a deal.
What greater motive to lie, than to stay out of jail? Yet, the system validates such deals because it promotes successful verdicts within the arena of legal combat. That’s all that really matters. Winning.
That’s what happened to Stephanie Mohr. Mother. Police officer. Citizen. Victim. Dennis Bonn cut a deal, and he gained liberty in exchange for wanted testimony.
It can happen to anyone. It can happen to me and to you, so long as the politics of the moment serve the cause. It actually frightens me to write this article and see it published. Maybe they’ll come after me next. How sad, we must fear our own government, while we commit 150,000 troops to free the people of another country 10,000 miles away.
Police officers are our first line of protection. A bad cop here and there must surely be dismissed and even prosecuted. But...for a dog bite? On an illegal alien dope-dealing thief? Ten years of a human being’s life, wasted?
This is abominable.
Are there any stop the invasion flyers you can print off for free to distribute to people or place on post it boards to get more word out?or do you have to profit from every thing to do with stop the invasion items?Give us a free flyer and we can supply the papper and ink.or does a flyer already exsist?
Personally I believe unless we take some drastic measures, it's just to late to change anything. We've become an immoral society, porn, child abuse, drugs, sexual overtones in every aspect of our everyday lives, abortion,greed etc. Wake up America and get a grip on the old idea of family values, honesty and God, or nothing will ever change. It doesn't make any difference who is president, there are other people who run the business of global economics of which we are just a small part.
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has become a threat to the safety and economy of this country.
This is the same organization that has been successful in stopping the Pledge of Allegiance in our schools, ending Christmas displays on public property, and other things that we Americans hold dear.
They do these things when one person complains, but don't take into account the feelings of everyone else.
Now, they have sided with the illegal immigrants who are populating our towns and cities while causing economic chaos and a sharp rise in crime.
In Hazleton, Pennsylvania, the ACLU sent many lawyers to protect the "rights" of illegals who are draining the city of money and causing other problems.
Los Angeles is in economic ruin because of illegals.
Many other places are feeling the awful impact of this problem.
Yet, the ACLU sides with those who break the law by being here and causing what soon will be a national emergency.
The ACLU does not understand that these illegals do not have the same rights as those who are here by legal means.
Now while I believe that every person in this country has rights, I want you the reader, to think about the following:
The United States has seen a sharp rise in crime in many areas because of illegal immigrants.
These crimes include, murder, rape, robbery, and identity theft.
Yes, every person has rights in this country, including illegal immigrants.
But what about the rights of people who are here by legal means?
What about their rights to live in peace?
What about the rights of the two police officers out west who were murdered by an illegal immigrant?
What about the rights of the many females who have been, are, and will be raped in the many southern border towns and cities, and soon in your areas by illegal immigrants?
What about your right to be free from higher taxes because of the economic drain caused by illegals?
Yes, you are supporting this mess!
And no, these illegal immigrants do not have the same rights as the people they victimize.
And yet, the ACLU is protecting the rights of these criminals, and it is everyone else who is paying for this illegal trespass.
Don't let this happen to your town.
Stop the ACLU now!
In closing, I am sure that there will be a few people who will argue that our ancestors came here illegally.
That is another kind of issue, but one thing is certain about that:
Our ancestors came here to work and create a better life and country for themselves and others.
The same cannot be said for the illegals of today.
George Vreeland Hill
This is the same organization that has been successful in stopping the Pledge of Allegiance in our schools, ending Christmas displays on public property, and other things that we Americans hold dear.
They do these things when one person complains, but don't take into account the feelings of everyone else.
Now, they have sided with the illegal immigrants who are populating our towns and cities while causing economic chaos and a sharp rise in crime.
In Hazleton, Pennsylvania, the ACLU sent many lawyers to protect the "rights" of illegals who are draining the city of money and causing other problems.
Los Angeles is in economic ruin because of illegals.
Many other places are feeling the awful impact of this problem.
Yet, the ACLU sides with those who break the law by being here and causing what soon will be a national emergency.
The ACLU does not understand that these illegals do not have the same rights as those who are here by legal means.
Now while I believe that every person in this country has rights, I want you the reader, to think about the following:
The United States has seen a sharp rise in crime in many areas because of illegal immigrants.
These crimes include, murder, rape, robbery, and identity theft.
Yes, every person has rights in this country, including illegal immigrants.
But what about the rights of people who are here by legal means?
What about their rights to live in peace?
What about the rights of the two police officers out west who were murdered by an illegal immigrant?
What about the rights of the many females who have been, are, and will be raped in the many southern border towns and cities, and soon in your areas by illegal immigrants?
What about your right to be free from higher taxes because of the economic drain caused by illegals?
Yes, you are supporting this mess!
And no, these illegal immigrants do not have the same rights as the people they victimize.
And yet, the ACLU is protecting the rights of these criminals, and it is everyone else who is paying for this illegal trespass.
Don't let this happen to your town.
Stop the ACLU now!
In closing, I am sure that there will be a few people who will argue that our ancestors came here illegally.
That is another kind of issue, but one thing is certain about that:
Our ancestors came here to work and create a better life and country for themselves and others.
The same cannot be said for the illegals of today.
George Vreeland Hill
One thing I never hear anyone mention regarding the illegal Latino problem is that every day MILLIONS of dollars are being wired to Mexico and Central America by Latinos, mostly illegals,to their families back "home." Even The Bank of America and Wells Fargo Bank have gotten into the act.
America gives more foreign aid than any other country in the world, as is, and we can't afford to have more money being drained from our economy.
It costs taxpayers even more to house the Latino lawbreakers. The majority of criminals in California jails and prisons are Latino; illegal or legal. The majority of graffitti is done by Latinos.
And English is the national language here. If they can't learn it, they shouldn't have jobs here. Many of them fake not understanding English, anyway, and it cost us money in the courts to hire interpreters.
American citizens are denied teaching jobs because they aren't bilingual. To hell with that. Put these Spanish speaking kids in English classes and don't teach them a damn thing else, until they can read and write English.
America gives more foreign aid than any other country in the world, as is, and we can't afford to have more money being drained from our economy.
It costs taxpayers even more to house the Latino lawbreakers. The majority of criminals in California jails and prisons are Latino; illegal or legal. The majority of graffitti is done by Latinos.
And English is the national language here. If they can't learn it, they shouldn't have jobs here. Many of them fake not understanding English, anyway, and it cost us money in the courts to hire interpreters.
American citizens are denied teaching jobs because they aren't bilingual. To hell with that. Put these Spanish speaking kids in English classes and don't teach them a damn thing else, until they can read and write English.
BOO HOO!!!!
what's the matter? REAP what you SOW!!! Goes around comes around! You are not superior, the great almighty!
God made this world for ALL mankind, not a select few. IF you get to heaven, there won't be color, race, nationality then!
what's the matter? REAP what you SOW!!! Goes around comes around! You are not superior, the great almighty!
God made this world for ALL mankind, not a select few. IF you get to heaven, there won't be color, race, nationality then!
WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHY ARE THERE NO PETITIONS OUT THERE TO TRY AND PUT A STOP TO THE AMNESTY PROPOSALS? SEEMS THAT IF SO MANY ARE AGAINST THIS WE SHOULD DO A PETITION AND LET OUR REPS KNOW THAT WE ARE AGAINST THIS? aS SOMEONE ELSE HAS SAID, THIS IS JUST SPITTING IN THE FACE OF PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES, AS WELL AS MEXICO, THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR YEARS TO GET INTO THIS COUNTRY!
I met a man named Ron Paul today - via the internet. What a breath of fresh air out of Washington! It's hard to believe this guy actually serves in our Congress today - it seems like he'd be in the Congress of Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson. Here's what he has to say about immigration. You might also appreciate he purportedly whipped all the Republican nominees in the first Republican debate. Please America...take a good look at this man's values and record in Congress. We need someone with a spine for America in the Oval office - not a puppet for the "New World Order".
Border Security and Immigration Reform
The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. This is my six point plan:
Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.
End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.
Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting period.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/html/issue-Border_fx.html
Border Security and Immigration Reform
The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. This is my six point plan:
Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.
End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.
Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting period.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/html/issue-Border_fx.html
This site is crap. Why are you trying to charge us an arm and a leg to send faxes? Get some sponsors and supply a venue for people to send faxes for free. Hell, give us the fax numbers we need and we can fax from our home over and over. At the very least dramatically lower the cost. I was also disgusted to see the high cost of helping ramos and campeon through your site. You're no better than liberal whores and pimps.
Ok, let me get this solution to illegal immigration. The genius minds in Washington is to give them legal status. Great, how about the crime problem in America. Washington solution, open up the jails, release everyone and decriminalize everything. Problem solved. It seems obvious that Washingtn doesn't hear it's citizens. I guess we are irrevalent to them. One party or the other, either choice is pretty bleak. It's getting hard to differentiate them. They know we have no alternative other than either party.I say we need to vote out everyone of them. We could use a third party. Or at least send enough votes to a third party to send a message. I'm sure they still wouldn't get it.
WE HAVE BEEN MISSING THE POINT: THE AMNESTY IS NOT ONLY FOR THE ILLEGALS, BUT ALSO FOR OUR OWN GOVERNMENT, WHICH HAS FAILED TO ENFORCE THE LAW.
If the new bill is passed, we can forget holding anyone accountable for past failures.
If the new bill is passed, we can forget holding anyone accountable for past failures.
To Whom It May Concern:
I received your "message to Ted Kennedy" email from a family member, and while you have every right to hold (and to voice) the views expressed in the message, I take issue with its content, and would like to shed some perspective on the immigration issue.
First of all, the United States is a country of immigrants. Unless you are full-blooded Native American, there are immigrants somewhere in your family tree. Part of what makes America great is the diversity of its people.
Secondly, we must consider why so many people want so badly to immigrate to the United States that they are willing to do so illegally, leaving behind family, friends and the only life they've ever known, risking a dangerous border crossing, accepting low-wage jobs and sub-standard living conditions, just to have a chance at the "American Dream." Wouldn't our efforts be better spent on working with the governments of the countries they are leaving, to improve conditions there, than on building walls along our borders and rounding up immigrants to deport them? If we, as a country or as individual citizens, are in a position to make the world a better place for others, we are responsible to do so.
Third, the Pledge of Allegiance (which is recited by school children, sports fans, and Congressmen alike), describes a nation "with Liberty and Justice for all". If we refuse to help the immigrants among us, legal or otherwise, we break that pledge.
Finally, on the plinth of the Statue of Liberty, (that iconic symbol of the United States) there is a poem by Emma Lazurus entitled "the New Colssus" which reads:
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch,
whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning,
and her name Mother of Exiles.
From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome;
her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips.
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
May we all strive to keep the lamp burning.
Kathirynne E. Jensen
citizen of the world
I received your "message to Ted Kennedy" email from a family member, and while you have every right to hold (and to voice) the views expressed in the message, I take issue with its content, and would like to shed some perspective on the immigration issue.
First of all, the United States is a country of immigrants. Unless you are full-blooded Native American, there are immigrants somewhere in your family tree. Part of what makes America great is the diversity of its people.
Secondly, we must consider why so many people want so badly to immigrate to the United States that they are willing to do so illegally, leaving behind family, friends and the only life they've ever known, risking a dangerous border crossing, accepting low-wage jobs and sub-standard living conditions, just to have a chance at the "American Dream." Wouldn't our efforts be better spent on working with the governments of the countries they are leaving, to improve conditions there, than on building walls along our borders and rounding up immigrants to deport them? If we, as a country or as individual citizens, are in a position to make the world a better place for others, we are responsible to do so.
Third, the Pledge of Allegiance (which is recited by school children, sports fans, and Congressmen alike), describes a nation "with Liberty and Justice for all". If we refuse to help the immigrants among us, legal or otherwise, we break that pledge.
Finally, on the plinth of the Statue of Liberty, (that iconic symbol of the United States) there is a poem by Emma Lazurus entitled "the New Colssus" which reads:
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch,
whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning,
and her name Mother of Exiles.
From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome;
her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips.
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
May we all strive to keep the lamp burning.
Kathirynne E. Jensen
citizen of the world
SEND-A-BRICK! Mail a brick by certified mail (so they can't trash it) to your representatives. Suggest they use it to build the fence they signed into law. A couple million bricks are hard to ignore.
Save your confederate money. My brother owns and operates a small store in texas and states that the sell of rebel flags have triple since the beginning of the immigrantion debates. Good people are replacing their old glory flags on theire homes showing dissatisfaction for their government and their support for no amnesty for illegals.
Just a note to let everyone know the NAHB is against the amnesty bill in congress. National Association of Home Builders have made a public statement on the HGTV Pro web site. They have said this amnesty is really bad for small business, which is the backbone of the industry. It will pull down wages for the American worker. We already are suffering because of so many illegals hired at lower wages and it is very hard to stay competitive.
I feel it is time for a national referendum on the matter of the illeagal aliens. How do we go about this? Maybe when the people stand up our vote will count for something. I am urging every person to contact their party representatives to get this movement started. I lived on the Mexican border all my life until the last two years. I was a 7th generation Texan and I am sad to say I'm glad I don't live in South Texas anymore. Illegal aliens broke into our ranch houses and stole everything, including guns, even killing some of our friends. These are not the same kind of illegal aliens that came across the river looking for work 20 years ago. those days are gone forever. Now they drive vehicles, cut down fences and leave their prayer rugs scattered around the landscape. NATIONAL REFERENDUM!!!
Where do we go to organize no vote campaigns against any Senator that votes for this garbage?????
We can vote for the opposition or not vote!!!!
We can vote for the opposition or not vote!!!!
I would be willing to accept this bill if the U.S. government, the Mexican government and the illegal immigrant organizations would come forth and sincerely APOLOGIZE for breaking our laws instead of the arrogance they have displayed until this point. It's not that we aren't forgiving or merciful. It's that we resent those who thumb their noses at us by refusing to admit that they broke the law, that they will accept the "punishments" in the bill, and will commit themselves to the legal process from this day forth.
I am so ashamed today to be an Arizonan. My senators will vote for this bill knowing that at least 75% of Arizona voters are against this bill. I have let them know what I think of this bill and that I will remember their votes the next time I vote for my senators and president.
Please encourage all citizens to fly their flags upside down in the distress position as a signal to congress of our loss of representation in the government and our stance against the passage of this bill. Maybe if enough citizens do so, it will get their attention.
Please encourage all citizens to fly their flags upside down in the distress position as a signal to congress of our loss of representation in the government and our stance against the passage of this bill. Maybe if enough citizens do so, it will get their attention.
Grassroots doesn't quite get it either. Immigration is an enormously important issue, but it is only a component of a bigger one: sovereignty. This issue wasn't listed in your survey.
I applaud the handful of you on this blog who are courageous enough to leave your names. For those of you who are "anonymous", including the one who posted "Viva Mexico!", remember that liberty, freedom and our nation's sovereignty are worth dying for, and until you are willing to risk your treasure and safety for what you believe in, all of these incremental steps to collectivism, part of the grand plan for which Obama is only the tool, will continue to happen. God Bless all of you and I hope you find the courage to stand up and fight for what is good and right about America.
Oh, and my last name is Ley. I am from Mississippi. I will change my account to reflect all of it. Come and take it!
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